Mexico Discovery Fuels Debate About Man's Origins

Deseret Morning News/Associated Press ^ | 10-3-2004 | John Rice

[blam]

This article was linked by Michael_Michaelangelo in another article. I believe it deserves it's own posting.

[RightWhale]

Walking from Alaska to anywhere would not be easy. Rivers were the highways before civilization arrived and moreso now, but rivers worked only one way before the motor except in winter when most people would not stray far from home anyway.

[Fiddlstix]

BTTT

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Needs a GGG ping...

[ValerieUSA]

velly velly intillessteenk

[Duaine]

Aliens took them there....they rode dinosoars...they called AAA for trip tickets...

[crazyhorse691]

Their is the scientific method of obtaining data and then there is the scientists method of interpreting that data. A lot of unscientific undata has been widespread through the media and proclaimed to be factual. Difficult to sort it out. Good article. More research will be needed to check this out particularly since most of the third world governments are only interested in stuff that will deflect criticisms from them.

[SirChas]

The few other scientists who have analyzed the bones closely agree that they look human — not animal — and are very, very old.

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Sorry, this really is an interesting article, but I just had to post this pic.

[blam]

I wonder if we've found skeletons of these folks?

Calico: A 200,000 Year Old Site In The Americas?

[blam]

Last Update: Sunday, October 10, 2004. 3:47pm (AEST)

Scientists search Chinese site for evidence of early man

Scientists have started drilling holes into the ground around the Peking Man site near Beijing in hopes of finding more relics from the ancient representative of the human race.

The project, jointly conducted by the Chinese Academy of Sciences and Electricite de France, aims to drill nine holes of up to 30 metres in depth, the Xinhua news agency reported.

The scientists hope the effort will result in evidence of early human activity in the area, as suggested by previous preliminary investigations, according to the agency.

The discovery of the 500,000-year-old Peking Man was one of the most decisive steps in the scientific quest to trace man's prehistoric development from the apes.

Since Peking Man was first unearthed in 1929, archaeologists have found fossils belonging to 40 different individuals and more than 100,000 stone implements and other objects.

The Zhoukoudian area, where the Peking Man's cave is located, was listed by the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organisation as a world heritage site in 1987.

[hosepipe]

Ewwwwe.. Demosaurus Uglinanis....
the ancient ancestor of Demotrollis Henri Waxmanus

[SunkenCiv]

Thanks Blam, saved me the effort, and it looks great!

Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on, off, or alter the "Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list --
Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
The GGG Digest -- Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

[SunkenCiv]

"Clovis-first advocates suggest that the early dates may reflect variations or errors in the still-developing technologies of dating old samples." Yeah, right. My favorite remains, "any dude could have put that there," regarding a pre-Clovis spearpoint found in a strata left by an ice-age glacier. :')

[Cogadh na Sith]

I always look forward to your posts.

Not 6 miles from me is the site of "Sandia Man Cave". The humans and their tools there dated to 27,000 years ago.

The 'Out of Africa' myth is starting to crumble...

[SunkenCiv]

About 30 years ago a book The Descent of Woman by the following author failed to make a case against the savannah theory of hominid evolution. This book continues that struggle. The Aquatic Ape theory is at least somewhat respectible now (among feminists), but there's so much in the way of anachronistic politics involved that I can't get fired up about it. I first saw the info about the baboon virus in this book. Quote follows the URL.

The Scars of Evolution
by Elaine Morgan

"The most remarkable aspect of Todaro's discovery emerged when he examined Homo Sapiens for the 'baboon marker'. It was not there... Todaro drew one firm conclusion. 'The ancestors of man did not develop in a geographical area where they would have been in contact with the baboon. I would argue that the data we are presenting imply a non-African origin of man millions of years ago.'"

Morgan obviously uses this to buttress her Aquatic Ape, since the area where (in her view) hominids turned to Homo Sapiens was in a supposedly isolated chunk of eastern Africa, temporarily separated from the mainland by open water. It was a nice safe place, free of predators, kinda like Disneyland, and the hominids just lucked out when the land split. Without a catastrophic split, this is untenable. : )

By far the oldest primate fossils come from Asia. While not Asian myself (unless one counts Europe, or my Hun ancestors), and generally Multiregionalist (rather than Replacement) and catastrophist, I regard the triumph of the African origin bias to be the result of the loss of the Peking Man fossils as well as the political chaos of eastern Asia during the first half (and more) of the 20th century.

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Why are so many archaelogists and anthropologists landsmen? Their ignorance of the sea is astounding, to say the least.

[escapefromboston]

Homo erectus died out over embarrassment because of their name.

[PaRebel]

The Herd instinct triumphs!!!!! Even, nee especially, in academia!!!

[adam_az]

"The discovery of the 500,000-year-old Peking Man"

I prefern Peking Duck, myself.