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Taking Sides: Kinsey (Warning, graphic content)
BreakPoint with Chuck Colson ^ | 2 Dec 04 | Chuck Colson

Posted on 12/02/2004 11:39:14 AM PST by Mr. Silverback

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To: diamond6

Dead but his work is still enshrined at Indiana University and subsidized by taxpayers.


21 posted on 12/02/2004 12:04:51 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: weegee
And don't forget Leni Riefenstahl and Michael Moore. Two peas in a pod.

I could be wrong, but I thought that Leni Riefenstahl actually did "good" work prior to 1933. Again I could be wrong, but I recall reading, seeing on TV(?) something to that effect.

In any case, Michael Moore couldn't hold her purse. Regardless of her product during Adolph's reign, she was at least talented and a 'true artist'.

Wait I just found this, I was right; Leni Riefenstahl . She was an artist long before her involvement with the Nazis.

22 posted on 12/02/2004 12:13:46 PM PST by Condor51 (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Gen G Patton)
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To: weegee
There's talk of Oscar nominations for Kinsey

Oh' you can bet your last dollar on that. Hollyweird will have to find some nomination for it.

How about "Most absurd fictional nonfiction movie"

No, wait F- 9/11 would win that hands down

23 posted on 12/02/2004 12:16:36 PM PST by Popman
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To: Condor51
I imagine that a number of Nazis did "good" works before their used their talents to mechanize and sell an evil regime.

Leni remained unwilling to apologize for her past. She just claimed that she was misunderstood and distant during those years.

Fritz Lang could have had her job. He fled to America instead. Everyone has choices.

Leni Riefenstahl was honored by the Academy at the Oscars when they showed her picture among those who had died in the previous year.

24 posted on 12/02/2004 12:19:16 PM PST by weegee (WE FOUGHT ZOGBYISM November 2, 2004 - 60 Million Voters versus 60 Minutes - BUSH WINS!!!)
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To: dnmore
"Kinsey regularly inflicted upon himself by his compulsive genital self-mutilation and other sado-masochistic behaviors."

This is always the kind of thing that Church workers/missionaries find when they go into 3rd world places, worship of strange gods are always followed by this sexual mutilation. The atheist can/should almost look at these things as evidence of the existence of God and Evil.

Is this actor, Liam, very left? Why would he do this part? Who in their right mind would do this part?
25 posted on 12/02/2004 12:28:14 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: Chad Fairbanks

Satan's Children at "Play"

Kinsey was a Pedophile.

The pedophiles helped the Gays get power, now the Gays will help the Pedophiles.


26 posted on 12/02/2004 12:31:55 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Mr. Silverback
The Deadbeat Dad of the Sexual Revolution, a speech by Judith A. Reisman

Kinsey Crimes & Consequences, by Judith A. Reisman

27 posted on 12/02/2004 12:35:41 PM PST by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by central planning.)
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To: weegee

Refenstahl is extremely influential on the way movies look. You can't avoid her. To not consider her an important film artist is to put one's head in the sand. Same with Eisenstein.


28 posted on 12/02/2004 12:40:10 PM PST by Borges
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To: Esther Ruth

"Is this actor, Liam, very left? Why would he do this part? Who in their right mind would do this part?"

Liam is married to one of Vanessa Redgrave's daughters. Vanessa has been a screaming lib all her adult life:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1289656/posts


29 posted on 12/02/2004 12:41:46 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (A Freep a day keeps the liberals away.)
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To: Esther Ruth

Should actors only play virtuous characters? There have been films about Hitler and Stalin too.


30 posted on 12/02/2004 12:42:47 PM PST by Borges
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To: Mr. Silverback

Although I've known who Kensey was for decades, I had never known about some of the information in this Colsen commentary. When seeing some of the trailers for this film, I surmised that information the likes of what Colsen revealed here was probably involved. I'm glad to see that confirmed.

The moral relativist overtones of this movie are unmistakable. IMO, this movie is going to advance a lot more than male/female relations. I doubt any of us thinks this had any impact on Hollywierd's decision to herald the life of Kensey. Nah, not a chance...


31 posted on 12/02/2004 12:43:22 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservatives)
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To: Esther Ruth
Is this actor, Liam, very left? Why would he do this part? Who in their right mind would do this part?

Several years ago, around the time of Bill Clinton's impeachment, Liam Neeson told an interviewer that he regarded Clinton as a hero. Portraying Kinsey as a great man isn't much of a stretch for a guy like that.

32 posted on 12/02/2004 12:44:09 PM PST by Garth Rockett (You're a Herman Mu-un-ster!)
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To: Mr. Silverback

"According to a recent John Leo column, this "research" includes the detailed notes of a pedophile who sexualy manipulated a child for 24 hours."

Many children were molested, referred to by some as "The Children of Table 34":

http://www.rsvpamerica.org/TABLE34.htm


33 posted on 12/02/2004 12:49:38 PM PST by LibFreeOrDie (A Freep a day keeps the liberals away.)
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To: GianniV
Please don't call Polanski a "statutory rapist" because it gives people the impression that he had sex with a willing minor. No, Polanski was the old fasioned kind of rapist. He drugged the girl up and didn't take "No" for an answer. If she'd been 50, it still would have been rape.
34 posted on 12/02/2004 12:53:32 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: Rummyfan

If Kinsey had only had AIDS and a male lover, Neeson would be a lock.


35 posted on 12/02/2004 1:00:08 PM PST by steve8714 (Urban sprawl and citizens' guns will save this country.)
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To: Borges
I don't know. If a good person involves himself in a movie about Hitler, plays the part, I would not judge his motives if the movie portrayed him as the evil person he was. This just sounds like this film has set out to make a sympathetic intimate up close biography of someone who was sexually abusing infants and children. That's what I question in Liam, that he wants to be so much a part in portraying all Kinsey did so sympathetically instead of so lowly evil and horrific. Some line has been crossed there and that an actor would desire this part with this seeming nasty agenda is..weird.
36 posted on 12/02/2004 1:01:14 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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To: Esther Ruth

I think I'm the only one here who has seen the film and Kinsey is not portrayed as an angel by any means. The child molestor he interviews is portrayed exactly as such...a very loathsome character who repels Kinsey's assistant into leaving the room. Kinsey remains and interviews him through gritted teeth 'in the interest of science'.


37 posted on 12/02/2004 1:05:31 PM PST by Borges
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To: Mr. Silverback; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; ...

Ping.


38 posted on 12/02/2004 1:06:49 PM PST by narses (Free Republic is pro-God, pro-life, pro-family + Vivo Christo Rey!)
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To: Mr. Silverback
It seems this movie is actually full of revelations. Just the scenes in the movie demionstrate something was deeply wrong with Kinsey. I had always assumed he was just a guy who put together a lot of statistics about sex.

Mutilating yourself is a pretty over the top mental illness, and common sense tells us that a legitimate researcher into sex is not busy sharing research assistants with his wife.

I would support Kinsey collecting information on child molestors because such information could be useful to society. But one gets the strong impression that Kinsey was a pervert first and a serious researcher second. I think this movie will have the opposite effect to the one intended.

40 posted on 12/02/2004 1:11:04 PM PST by Williams
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