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Famous Atheist Now Believes in God
NY Newsday ^ | 12/9/04 | RICHARD N. OSTLING

Posted on 12/10/2004 7:08:12 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo

NEW YORK -- A British philosophy professor who has been a leading champion of atheism for more than a half-century has changed his mind. He now believes in God -- more or less -- based on scientific evidence, and says so on a video released Thursday.

At age 81, after decades of insisting belief is a mistake, Antony Flew has concluded that some sort of intelligence or first cause must have created the universe. A super-intelligence is the only good explanation for the origin of life and the complexity of nature, Flew said in a telephone interview from England.

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KEYWORDS: antonyflew; atheism; atheist; atheists; convert; evolution; god; intelligentdesign; ssdd
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1 posted on 12/10/2004 7:08:12 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Helooooo... McFly.......


3 posted on 12/10/2004 7:09:59 AM PST by dubie
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To: AndrewC; bondserv; LiteKeeper; Dataman

Ping


4 posted on 12/10/2004 7:10:18 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory.)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

He has a good argument no doubt. However, it's a big step from his idea of God to the one you go to church to try to talk to.


5 posted on 12/10/2004 7:10:41 AM PST by pnome
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
Flew said. "My whole life has been guided by the principle of Plato's Socrates: Follow the evidence, wherever it leads."
6 posted on 12/10/2004 7:12:53 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory.)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

"At age 81, after decades of insisting belief is a mistake..."

Hmmmm. He's 81, not much time left on the calendar. Could this be a bit of philosophical CYA?


7 posted on 12/10/2004 7:13:17 AM PST by brownsfan (Post No Bills)
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To: pnome
...it's a big step from his idea of God to the one you go to church to try to talk to.

Yeah, it really is.

BTW, what religion has that kind of god? Could you name it?

Dan
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8 posted on 12/10/2004 7:15:26 AM PST by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

My first thought was about Madelein Murray O'Hair. I'm sure she's a believer by now.


10 posted on 12/10/2004 7:15:52 AM PST by abishai
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To: brownsfan

you took the words right out of my post. CYA time.


11 posted on 12/10/2004 7:15:52 AM PST by camle (keep your mind open and somebody will fill it with something for you))
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To: brownsfan
Hmmmm. He's 81, not much time left on the calendar. Could this be a bit of philosophical CYA?

I've often wondered what percentage of atheists would pray to God if their airplane was going down.

12 posted on 12/10/2004 7:16:51 AM PST by Michael_Michaelangelo (The best theory is not ipso facto a good theory.)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

I'll tell you what: there are only two kinds of people who could indulge in the kinds of remarks I'm seeing in this thread about some poor devil who's trying to make an effort to understand the Almighty after years of pigheaded disbelief. Christians (of course) and atheists.


13 posted on 12/10/2004 7:18:16 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Hey, Mr. Flew, I got one word for you... DUH!!!


14 posted on 12/10/2004 7:18:58 AM PST by 14erClimb
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

Sometimes I wonder why Jesus Christ is attacked with such viciousness. I don't know the answer. Maybe it is because people know deep inside there maybe something right about it but would rather attack it than think about it or change. Maybe it is because becoming a Christian is so against everything we now believe in our culture (being cool, materialism, it is all about me, PC politics, etc.). Maybe it is because some live their entire lives in a set of beliefs and near the end of it look back and see it all mattered for nothing and are pissed.

Sometimes the concept of hell gets people worked up. The argument on "How can a good God cast people into hell when they have lived a pretty good life" is false logic. Hell is a place where God is absent. This is exactly what the people who rejected God all their lives wanted. The "pit" of hell maybe a very comfortable place where everyone who rejected God their entire lives must now reside knowing they had lived their lives in a lie. That they had wasted it all. That actually may be worse than a guy with pitchfork.

God has given us all the "free will" to chose. God has sent his only son to die for us, to suffer for our sins and to show us the way. God could have easily made a bunch of robots that would do everything he said but instead loved us enough for us to make our own decisions. I tell people to make their own decision after they have reviewed the evidence. After all, Jesus Christ's resurrection is either the supreme fact in the history of mankind or a gigantic hoax. If Christ's resurrection is true -- people ignore its implications at their own peril. If not -- Christianity is the biggest fraud in the history of the world and should be easy enough to disprove. If they believe it is a hoax, then they must take an honest look at the evidence. And the evidence is overwhelming...


15 posted on 12/10/2004 7:25:37 AM PST by 2banana (They want to die for Islam and we want to kill them)
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To: valuesvaluesvalues

Yes, but one must learn to crawl before they can run.


16 posted on 12/10/2004 7:27:23 AM PST by jrestrepo
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo

As the saying goes, there's no such thing as an atheist in a foxhole.


17 posted on 12/10/2004 7:28:58 AM PST by hsrazorback1 (To get what you had, do what you did.)
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To: brownsfan

My thoughts to, but, how many has he influenced to lead a life of secular desperation.


18 posted on 12/10/2004 7:29:10 AM PST by marty60
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To: Michael_Michaelangelo
So next week when another even 'better' argument 'against the existence of God' appears....

He will change his mind again?...

The bible says ..even the demons 'believe' and tremble.....

Satan knows of God's existence and power as FACT....he also knows who the Holy Spirit is and who Jesus Christ the Son of the living God is and that Jesus is God.

Satan also knows full well what is ultimately in store for him and his herd of demons.....

Yet.....this knowledge has not changed his heart one iota.
19 posted on 12/10/2004 7:29:37 AM PST by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: abishai
My first thought was about Madelein Murray O'Hair. I'm sure she's a believer by now.

I understand that Arafat is a believer now as well.

20 posted on 12/10/2004 7:31:11 AM PST by Theo
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