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New relationship sought between West and Islam
Muslim News ^ | 9 December 2004

Posted on 12/10/2004 5:38:35 PM PST by kupia_kummi

London, IRNA - A fresh initiative was launched Thursday to develop a new relationship between the West and Islam based upon 'mutual listening' at all levels.

"There are many in Europe and US, ex-diplomats, ex-military and those from my background, who are very concerned at the increasing and worsening estrangement between the West and Islam," former British MI6 intelligence agent, Alastair Crooke said.

"Many in both are societies are quite angry at what it is doing to our societies and the damage being done to worsen the circumstances of Muslims everywhere," Crooke said, who also referred to the deterioration in the life of British Muslims.

The initiative was launched at the Frontline Club for journalists in London by the UK-based independent multinational Conflict Forum, which has been set up to promote rapprochement with the Muslim world.

Crooke, a director and founding member of the forum, said that it was extremely important to make clear that the differences between the West and Islam "have nothing to do with differences over values but were differences over policies."

"Muslim values in no way threaten our societies. On all strategic Western values, elections, popular participation in governance and in the wish for effective and incorrupt governance, Muslims overwhelmingly share these values," he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at muslimnews.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: alastaircrooke; islam; mi6; muslims; skinhead; terror; trollbait; unitedkingdom
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1 posted on 12/10/2004 5:38:35 PM PST by kupia_kummi
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To: kupia_kummi
Do you ever comment on the threads you start.

Are you a Troll?

Are you a Muslim?

2 posted on 12/10/2004 5:40:04 PM PST by BullDog108 (Know Your Enemy! http://bvml.org/webmaster/enemy.html)
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To: kupia_kummi

"Please don't kick us out of the Western infidel countires! We'll be nice, we swear of on the name of allah!"


3 posted on 12/10/2004 5:41:27 PM PST by xJones
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To: kupia_kummi
London, IRNA - A fresh initiative was launched Thursday to develop a new relationship between the West and Islam based upon 'mutual listening' at all levels

Mutual Listening?

Its not like we didn't HEAR their message, its that we REJECT it.

They need to go away for a hundred years and clean up their "religion". Then come back and maybe there will be something to talk about.

4 posted on 12/10/2004 5:42:55 PM PST by konaice
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To: BullDog108
God question.

kupia_kummi, are you a muslim?

5 posted on 12/10/2004 5:43:48 PM PST by xJones
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To: kupia_kummi

F' em.


6 posted on 12/10/2004 5:44:06 PM PST by johniegrad
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To: kupia_kummi
"Muslim values in no way threaten our societies....

I don't think so.

7 posted on 12/10/2004 5:44:50 PM PST by leadpencil1 (Chamonix Esotique...Avacor...Cortislim…ENOUGH ALREADY!)
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To: kupia_kummi

Whoops, I forgot to put your name in the To box for #5


8 posted on 12/10/2004 5:45:14 PM PST by xJones
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To: kupia_kummi

google "al-Taqiyya"


9 posted on 12/10/2004 5:46:02 PM PST by leadpencil1 (Chamonix Esotique...Avacor...Cortislim…ENOUGH ALREADY!)
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To: BullDog108

Yes I do comment sometimes. No I am not a troll nor a muslim. What upsets you ?


10 posted on 12/10/2004 5:46:34 PM PST by kupia_kummi
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To: kupia_kummi
Painful as it may be, read the WHOLE article to get an Idea of the scope of this guys state of Delusion and Denial.
11 posted on 12/10/2004 5:46:55 PM PST by konaice
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To: kupia_kummi
What upsets you ?

Nothing. I'm just curious as to your intentions.

12 posted on 12/10/2004 5:47:24 PM PST by BullDog108 (Know Your Enemy! http://bvml.org/webmaster/enemy.html)
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To: kupia_kummi

"Muslim values in no way threaten our societies. On all strategic Western values, elections, popular participation in governance and in the wish for effective and incorrupt governance, Muslims overwhelmingly share these values," he said.
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Absolutely total and complete trash, based upon Koranic approved lies and deception !!!


13 posted on 12/10/2004 5:50:48 PM PST by GeekDejure ( LOL = Liberals Obey Lucifer !!!)
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To: kupia_kummi
Just a very few reasons why Islam is getting a bad rap......and this is not the worst of Islam either...


































14 posted on 12/10/2004 5:52:14 PM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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"Muslim values in no way threaten our societies. On all strategic Western values, elections, popular participation in governance and in the wish for effective and incorrupt governance, Muslims overwhelmingly share these values," he said.

So other than the fact that this effort is all based on a blatant lie, is there a news story here? Are my tax dollars paying for this somehow?

15 posted on 12/10/2004 5:53:02 PM PST by thoughtomator (Nobody expects the secular inquisition!)
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To: kupia_kummi

I'm all for a new relationship with Islam. Let's start with "they stay the h*ll away from our country!"


16 posted on 12/10/2004 5:54:16 PM PST by sweetliberty (Just because we CAN do something, doesn't mean we should.)
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To: BullDog108

My only intention is to post articles which hopefully will stimulate some kind of constructive thinking or debate.


17 posted on 12/10/2004 5:54:18 PM PST by kupia_kummi
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To: BullDog108; kupia_kummi

kupia_kummi has posted dozens of articles in a very short time and replied only a very few times in any of them. In-Forum is interesting to look at from kupia_kummi's profile page.


18 posted on 12/10/2004 5:54:56 PM PST by SittinYonder (Tancredo and I wanna know what you believe)
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To: kupia_kummi
Relationship with the beheading scum?

No thanx!
19 posted on 12/10/2004 5:56:10 PM PST by Kurt_D
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To: kupia_kummi

Constructive thinking will have to come from the Muslim side...And I don't mean constructive in the way of car bombs.


20 posted on 12/10/2004 5:56:17 PM PST by Dallas59 ("A weak peace is worse than war" - Tacitcus)
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