"Still crazy, after all these years, OH, still crazy, after all these years..."
God is nothing if not patient.
Don't know if this warrants summoning the Crevo crowd, but pinging all the same...
If you're preparing for death, you becoming more religious. In one's old age, its harder to remain an atheist.
This has been posted from different sources, but I keep wondering if Antony Flew has ever considered the possiblity that his god might not believe in him?
Aristotle need not apply. A=A. Sheesh. What a maroon!
/john
Senility happens.
SO9
Didn't even know that God was lost :-)
Ooohh ooooh,,,,, knock knock knockin' on heavens door......
How about this for Mr Flew.
Since in physics on a micro level there is the concept of collapsing a wave form by observation. Why could God not have observed the universe into existance and holds it there by his attention.
It is in keeping with scripture also. His eye is on the sparrow after all. Would require that he knows and monitors all.
God's attention wavers, universe ends.
"I'm thinking of a God very different from the God of the Christian and far and away from the God of Islam because both are depicted as omnipotent Oriental despots, cosmic Saddam Husseins."
Then I guess he's a Unitarian.
listen folks I don't think you are being at all fair about this...this is a significant development.
i have followed anthony flew's work for years. he is sort of enigmatic in that while he has been a very vocal and very rigorous atheist, he has also been more or less an economic libertarian. he has never embraced socialism. just the opposite. he has almost always been on our side.
i always thought that was interesting. i would think, "well he's half right." i guess from his perspective, i think he must have thought that both religion and socialism are just purely wishful thinking based on feelings, not rigorous thought and investigation.
now, interestingly, the rigor of his thought has led him to doubt his atheism. i think this is significant. and i think we should be grateful that he has the guts and humility after years of being vocal and atheist, to say that maybe he was wrong. how many intellectuals can do that?
my admiration for him has gone up. i think he will come to know the one true triune God before he dies.
Worked for Mortimer Adler, Malcolm Muggeridge, CS Lewis...many many others....
Francis Crick, the discoverer of DNA, who just recently passed away, never could believe that life sprang from the earth ex nihilo. The likelihood of this event was so statistically unlikely as to be utterly preposterous. Yet he could never admit the possibility of divine intervention. So he came up with his notion of "directed panspermia", that is, that the earth had to have been seeded by alien beings in the remote past. And this guy had a Nobel Prize in biology! It takes an awful lot of education to be this eccentric.
It is the fatal conceit of modern man to deny God under any and all circumstances. This conceit lies at the heart of all that is wrong with our world today.
Who cares what this idiot thinks?
After 81 years he still hasn't figured it out?
Well from what I've gathered the two are not related: evolutionary theory and the origins of life.
The Nova story is a fairy tale of soupy chemical mixtures combining in just the right fashion to form living organisms, which then fed on bacteria.
Ho ho ho! Wait a minute you living organisms, where'd you get the bacteria?
OK the origin of life arguments are fairy tales and Dr. Flew acknowledges that. That acknowledgment doesn't mean he "believes in God". He certainly doesn't give testimony to knowing the Judeo-Christain God.
He's just saying that there is a possibility, a likely probability that such an intelligence exists.
So, no news here, truthfully, unless I'm missing something.
Well from what I've gathered the two are not related: evolutionary theory and the origins of life.
The Nova story is a fairy tale of soupy chemical mixtures combining in just the right fashion to form living organisms, which then fed on bacteria.
Ho ho ho! Wait a minute you living organisms, where'd you get the bacteria?
OK the origin of life arguments are fairy tales and Dr. Flew acknowledges that. That acknowledgment doesn't mean he "believes in God". He certainly doesn't give testimony to knowing the Judeo-Christain God.
He's just saying that there is a possibility, a likely probability that such an intelligence exists.
So, no news here, truthfully, unless I'm missing something.
Senility must have set in.