Atheist philosopher acknowledges the existence of God

http://www.asianews.it/view.php?l=en&art=2095 ^ | 11 December, 2004

[AmericanMade1776]

Little insignificant Anthony Flew in the whole scope of the Universe, just a small speck of dust.....creator of nothing but mumbo jumbo..admits that there might be GOD.

How big of him!

[AmericanMade1776]

Anthony Flew

[Nuzcruizer]

If you read the bible, you'd know that is not possible.
God explained his essence (trinity) long before the comming of Christ.

[mylife]

Looks like a great book.

Ive never understood this rift between science and spirituality

[Just mythoughts]

"REVELATION 4:1-3"


You know the E's never ever discuss the evolution of the 'spirit'. I suppose it does not exist to them, and boy are they in for an awakening, I imagine there are going to be plenty of 'red' blushing spirits when that time occurs.

[Melas]

I wasn't aware that the existence of spirits had been scientifically substantiated, a step necessary before one attempts to discern how they evolved.

[Just mythoughts]

"I wasn't aware that the existence of spirits had been scientifically substantiated, a step necessary before one attempts to discern how they evolved."


lol yep stuff like that happens when you look in the wrong places for 'existence'. So the E crowd will have to wait till the flesh dies for that evidence.

[melbell]

"Little insignificant Anthony Flew in the whole scope of the Universe, just a small speck of dust.....creator of nothing but mumbo jumbo..admits that there might be GOD. How big of him!"

"little insignificant Anthony Flew" as you so *lovingly* refer to him...is STILL a creation of God. No better or worse than you or me. God weeps when one of his creations turns away from Him. And He rejoices when one of his creations joins with Him. Whether you like to believe it or not, God loves all the "bad" people as much as He loves all of the "good" people. Your attitude is appalling. That "speck of dust" is one of your Father's prodigal sons and you should be PRAYING for him not talking about how much he doesn't matter.

[Earthdweller]

Welcome doubting Thomas..sheesh, what took you so long? ;)

[PietroA]

Please, tone down. Actually what AmericanMade1776 said is correct at face value. Your reply is as well correct, also at face value, except for your presuming to know the motivation and feeling of AmericanMade1776, which you really do not.

We are all "little insignificant specks of dusts" (God made Adam from dust). It is only His Love and Grace that makes us "special" to Him.

Blessings

[AmericanMade1776]

Looks like a great book. Ive never understood this rift between science and spirituality

Me either, really. How man was made by God seems to be another rift between science and spiritual understandings.

[AmericanMade1776]

"Little insignificant Anthony Flew in the whole scope of the Universe, just a small speck of dust.....creator of nothing but mumbo jumbo..admits that there might be GOD. How big of him!"

"little insignificant Anthony Flew" as you so *lovingly* refer to him...is STILL a creation of God. No better or worse than you or me. God weeps when one of his creations turns away from Him. And He rejoices when one of his creations joins with Him. Whether you like to believe it or not, God loves all the "bad" people as much as He loves all of the "good" people. Your attitude is appalling. That "speck of dust" is one of your Father's prodigal sons and you should be PRAYING for him not talking about how much he doesn't matter.

Great then God loves me no how appalling I am to you personally. lol

[AmericanMade1776]

Thank you Pietro.

[AmericanMade1776]

We are all "little insignificant specks of dusts" (God made Adam from dust). It is only His Love and Grace that makes us "special" to Him

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed a man's body from the dust of the ground and breathed into it the breath of life. And the man became a living person.

Genesis 3::19 All your life you will sweat to produce food, until your dying day. Then you will return to the ground from which you came. For you were made from dust, and to the dust you will return."

[melbell]

I understand that we are nothing without God. But AmericanMade's tone in his post was extremely condescending. The "how big of him" part in particular.

We have no place being condescending to someone because they are not followers of Christ. Especially when they have PUBLICALLY admitted that they have been wrong about something they felt very strongly about for a very long time. Some of us have trouble admitting we were wrong if we make a tiny mistake that has no real consequence on our life at all. This guy has a following for his studies and teachings and he was able to say, "you know what...I was wrong."

That is a huge step and it was "big" of him to be able to admit just how wrong he was. It's not like he went from "there is a God, but He's not all knowing," to "There is a God and He IS all knowing." He went from believing with everything in him that there was no God at all. To now publically admitting that there is! And that is huge.

I will completely agree that we are all "specks of dust" as compared to God until we accept Him into our lives and become saved. But does that mean I have a right to look down on someone else just because I made that step and they haven't? This man needs prayer and encouragement, not "well then...aren't you just special for figuring out what all of us knew already".

I understand that he probably isn't reading this, and probably didn't see AmericanMade's post, and probably never will. But other people have this attitude** and he is going to hear this from plenty of people.

**attitude: I am defining this word as the attitude that I PERCEIVE AmericanMade has, just from reading his post. If I am wrong about that perceived attitude then I certainly apologize for jumping to conclusions on what you meant when you posted. But this is how it came across to me. Maybe I'm the only one who saw it this way, but it did bother me (so you can probably tell or we wouldn't be having this discussion)

[melbell]

You are correct, that God loves you even if I don't like something that you said.

But please don't think I find you appalling at all, because I don't.

[AmericanMade1776]

Okay..good enough, but I never said that God did not love Anthony Flew.

[melbell]

I know you didn't say it.

The tone that I picked up from the post hit me hard.

But all is well, as I am able to admit that the tone I picked up is not necessarily the one you intended to convey...

So much meaning is lost from posts like these once the "Post" button is clicked and the words are no longer only in our heads.

[mdmathis6]

Oh I agree with you....I was making a point that CS Lewis made in some writing or other that it is foolish to speak of God in terms of having been created since part of the definition of God is his own omnipotence and omnipresence. He created everything in exixtence and was in existence before all that was created. He even created the "light and dark". To speak of God as having had a beginning is to say that there are higher orders of being that we should be pursuing and that is blasphemy. The Bible says that "there is no other like ME(meaning God)"

The glorious thing about this season is the grace that this Uncreated God bestowed upon our world by sending his son, God made flesh, to shine a light into our darkened consciences so that we could be re-made into his likeness. Of his shed blood we are repentant, by his shed blood we are made resplendant (in spirit and in truth)!

[killjoy]

I was making a point that CS Lewis made in some writing or other that it is foolish to speak of God in terms of having been created since part of the definition of God is his own omnipotence and omnipresence.

If God has always existed, why can't the same be said of the universe?