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1 posted on 02/26/2005 2:32:33 PM PST by Lessismore
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To: Lessismore

And all this time you thought "Middle Earth" was just a myth....


2 posted on 02/26/2005 2:37:34 PM PST by alloysteel ("Master of the painfully obvious.....")
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To: PatrickHenry

Better ping the list quick before the trolls come after the hobbits


3 posted on 02/26/2005 2:43:03 PM PST by RightWingAtheist (Creationism is not conservative!)
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To: Lessismore

Reminds me of the movie Skullduggery starting Bert Reynolds, and Roger C. Carmel (aka Harry Mudd of Star Trek fame.)

Cute little prehistoric people live in....I believe Indonesia or New Guinea.....are in the way of evil captalist oil drillers.....so 1970's....or today for that matter if you are on board with the Ward Churchill/Howard Dean cabal.....


8 posted on 02/26/2005 2:53:29 PM PST by Vaquero
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To: Lessismore
>Jacob has announced that, in his view, the skeleton is that of a modern human pygmy with microcephaly

Hmmm. What are the odds
that the bones you find are from
a rare race of folks

and from a person
with an abnormal size head?
"Science" is bizarre . . .

9 posted on 02/26/2005 2:55:08 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: Lessismore

Geeeez, I watched the original announcement of the discovery and thought it was really exciting that a pigmy form of early hominid might have been discovered.


10 posted on 02/26/2005 3:00:31 PM PST by cake_crumb (Leftist Credo: "One Wing to Rule Them all and to the Dark Side Bind Them")
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Hobbit bone wars
Professor says new analysis on ‘stolen bones’ confirms ‘hobbit’ just a small, sick human

by Carl Wieland, CEO/president, AiG–Australia

28 February 2005

We have already featured two articles on the tiny human specimen nicknamed ‘the hobbit’, after the diminutive quasi-humans imagined in Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings fiction classics. See Soggy Dwarf Bones and Hobbling the Hobbit.

The scientific name assigned to this alleged new species of human is Homo floresiensis (after the Indonesian island of Flores, on which the bones of seven individuals were discovered).

These remains are now the centre of a substantial international controversy. Indonesia’s Professor Teuku Jacob, who had allegedly agreed to return the bones (to the Australian team which made the discovery) by 1 January this year, finally returned them on 23 February.

Meanwhile, however, he has permitted two other Australian scientists to study them in detail—Dr Alan Thorne of the Australian National University, and Professor Maciej Henneberg, of the Department of Anatomical Sciences at the University of Adelaide. The discoverers have protested loudly at the alleged impropriety of this pair studying ‘stolen remains’.

Following their three-day examination of the most complete specimen, Professor Henneberg said it confirmed his previous opinion, gained from studying the reports, that this was a modern human who had a brain-shrinking disorder called microcephaly. He is reported as saying that there is now ‘absolutely no doubt that this person had a growth disorder.’1

Whether the tiny people of Flores were indeed microcephalic modern types, or whether they represent a pygmy version of so-called Homo erectus, the point is really the same. Namely, that there is no reason not to classify them all—the Flores inhabitants as well as H. erectus—as Homo sapiens—part of the range of variation found within a single species (see also Skull wars: new ‘Homo erectus’ skull in Ethiopia).

In fact, evolutionist Alan Thorne is one of those who, along with the University of Michigan’s Milford Wolpoff, has been saying for years to his paleoanthropological colleagues that, even though they believe that H. erectus evolved into modern humans, it is wrong to assign a separate species name to it. Thorne and Henneberg are natural allies in this; Henneberg has recently published his findings that if you bunch all the ‘apemen’ in together, they exhibit the range of variation one would normally find within a single species!2

While this is radical even by creationist standards, it certainly undermines the dogmatism with which evolutionists have claimed that these sorts of ‘apemen’ demonstrate our nonhuman ancestry—and this is from an expert in anatomy!3

The Australian scientists who made the original discovery are even further dismayed that about two grams of the hobbit bones have been sent, without their permission, to Germany’s Max Planck Institute for extracting DNA.

While not buying into the ethics controversy surrounding the ‘hobbit bone wars‘, we await the results of the DNA analysis with great interest. We would suggest with a great deal of confidence that it will be consistent with the human status of the tiny former inhabitants of Flores, and thus consistent with a biblical recent-creation worldview.

Sadly, the media ‘hype’ surrounding the initial discovery, as is so often the case, does its evolutionary-brainwashing damage in the public arena, without the subsequent sober withdrawals or corrections getting anywhere near the same airtime.

References and notes
Cited in Smith, D., ‘Hobbit’ just a little man with small brain, Sydney Morning Herald website, 19 February 2005. Return to text.
Henneberg M., de Miguel C., Hominins are a single lineage: brain and body size variability does not reflect postulated taxonomic diversity of hominins, Homo. 55(1–2):21–37, 2004. Return to text.
But see also The non-transitions in ‘human evolution’—on evolutionists’ terms, citing evolutionists who classify ‘hominins’ as a group distinct from ‘australopiths’. Return to text.


18 posted on 02/28/2005 7:41:24 PM PST by DannyTN
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