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View from the Left: Immigration Should be a Liberal Issue
Frontpagemagazine/RealClearPolitics.com ^ | 5-16-05 | Froma Harrop

Posted on 05/16/2005 5:47:01 AM PDT by SJackson

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To: chris1

That just tells me about stuff I'd like to keep from my earnings ... bring on the Fair Tax!

That said, in most cases, I don't think they earn enough to pay Income Tax or FICA - in fact if they filed, they would probably get MORE money in the form of another welfare boondoggle: the "Earned Income Tax Credit."


21 posted on 05/16/2005 6:59:00 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: SJackson

Hitlery fools no one, not even her supporters.


22 posted on 05/16/2005 7:02:24 AM PDT by AmericanChef
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To: William Terrell
Actually, as somebody kept pointing out to me, I think illegal immigration is a misdemeanor violation of a Federal Regulation - more like speeding or littering than a felony. It woudl be nice if the Feds took it a little more seriously.

In terms of crime however, I'm more interested in the fact that illegals seem to commit felonies way out proportion to their population.
23 posted on 05/16/2005 7:03:37 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Sacajaweau

Its still their money. They are still entitled to dispose of as they see fit.

And these days, too much of our money seems to go to the PRC to help their economy (and the PLA) to grow.


24 posted on 05/16/2005 7:05:32 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Little Ray

And what about the money we are collectively forced to pay when they commit crimes, need emerghency health care services, and educate their kids??????? Don't you think they should pay for that???


25 posted on 05/16/2005 7:28:43 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: chris1
Illegals would not probably not pay for these things, even if they were filing taxes - they usually don't make enough. Instead they would likely get the "Earned Income Tax Credit" - extract yet MORE welfare from the rest of us.

I don't want them here, but I must object to people acting like the money that illegals earn belongs to anybody but them. That's Democrat / Liberal / Commie type thinking, where the money they let us keep is an "expenditure." Speak, if you will, of illegal aliens pricing indigenous labor out of the market, of the crime and cultural issues, of emergency rooms closing, etc., but don't lay claim to the money they work very hard to earn.
26 posted on 05/16/2005 7:47:30 AM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: Little Ray

No, just the share, at least, that the rest of us have our picked for every day of every week.


27 posted on 05/16/2005 8:36:58 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: Little Ray

The issue of immigration has nothing to do with the traditional political split between Liberal versus Conservative. Its more a split between those Americans who still have a lick of common sense versus those who are completely nuts. You have support for endless immigration coming from the exteme ends of both the Liberal AND Conservative elites -- with the rest of us Americans stuck in the middle paying for it. On the Left, you have the Bleeding Heart Liberals who's hearts bleed for all "minorities" (so long as they don't have to actually live amongst them). ANd on the right, you have the Rightwing Coporate Conservatives who see millions of new immigrants as nothing more than cattle for them to feed on: a source of endless cheap labor and millions of new people to buy their crappy products. But the overwhelming majority of Americans of ALL political persuasions want to severely reduce our insane level of Mass Immigration, and to put a complete stop to illegal immigration. And we are going to do that. ANd any politician who gets in our way is going to pay dearly for that. Are you listening, Senator McCain and Senator Chappequiddik?


28 posted on 05/16/2005 2:23:29 PM PDT by Ace Backwords
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To: Ace Backwords
I don't support illegal immigration. I support protecting the borders with minefields, concertina wire, listening posts, and helicopter gunships. I support ending various "freebies" that allow them to hit up the taxpayer for medical care, etc. Illegals are dangerous - they bring crime, cultural conflict, and disease.
But I'm not going to stoop to robbing illegal aliens when I kick 'em out. What they have earned (not stole - earned) is theirs.
29 posted on 05/16/2005 3:47:47 PM PDT by Little Ray (I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
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To: SJackson

Hill and dems want it both ways, as usual. They're against illegal immigration (wink, wink...come on in, vote dem.,and we'll get you lots of free goodies,cradle to grave stuff), but we blame employers who hire illegals. We certainly don't blame massive wave of illegal migrants/invaders looking for a better life. So when illegals get the vote, along with felons, they'll vote dem. And then they'll vote to secede and join Mexico or become Aztlan. At that point, GW and the republicans, sitting on their hands/dithering, will wonder what hit them.


30 posted on 05/16/2005 3:53:43 PM PDT by hershey
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Hill and dems want it both ways, as usual. They're against illegal immigration (wink, wink...come on in, vote dem.,and we'll get you lots of free goodies,cradle to grave stuff), but we blame employers who hire illegals. We certainly don't blame massive wave of illegal migrants/invaders looking for a better life. So when illegals get the vote, along with felons, they'll vote dem. And then they'll vote to secede and join Mexico or become Aztlan. At that point, GW and the republicans, presently sitting on their hands, will wonder what hit them.


31 posted on 05/16/2005 3:55:05 PM PDT by hershey
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But I'm not going to stoop to robbing illegal aliens when I kick 'em out. What they have earned (not stole - earned) is theirs.

I would say if they return on their own they can take whatever they've accumulated. If we have to deport, then they forfeit.
32 posted on 05/16/2005 3:58:56 PM PDT by moehoward
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