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Filibuster battle altering '08 presidential landscape
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | May 29, 2005 | By Ralph Z. Hallow

Posted on 05/29/2005 2:33:50 PM PDT by strategofr

Last week's Senate compromise that averted a showdown over filibustered judicial nominees was actually the opening salvo of the 2008 presidential campaign, several veteran political observers say. The unexpected consequence of the filibuster compromise is to give a boost to the presidential prospects of Sen. George Allen, Virginia Republican. "Allen was very vocal in support of changing the rules to eliminate the filibuster of judicial nominees and took the right position in condemning the compromise," said Free Congress Foundation President Paul M. Weyrich. Conservatives have strongly condemned the compromise as a politically motivated gambit by Arizona Sen. John McCain, key Republican broker in the deal that ensured confirmation of three of President Bush's nominees to federal appeals courts. "George Allen is helped to the extent that the other potential [Republican] nomination competitors are not helped," said David Keene, chairman of the American Conservative Union. "Allen was on the right side and said the right things."

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TOPICS: Government; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006; 2006elections; 2006senaterace; 2008; acu; allen2008; compromisesenallen; filibuster; fillibuster; georgeallen; nuclearoption; ralphzhallow; voterfraudbigin06; weyrich
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Allen looking good so far.
1 posted on 05/29/2005 2:33:50 PM PDT by strategofr
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To: strategofr
Plus Allen is a former governor and should break the Senator's curse. I think it will come down to Allen and Mitt Romney. I don't think the Republicans have ever ran a former governor of Virginia, but this is what happened the last time a conservative Virginian ran for president:

And this is what happened the last time the Republicans ran a former governor of Massachusetts:

(hint: elections are exactly 104 years apart)

2 posted on 05/29/2005 2:41:17 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (crime would drop like a sprung trapdoor if we brought back good old-fashioned hangings)
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To: strategofr

Nope, Allen can't win. No senator can.

The only chance the Repubs have of holding on to the presidency is Condi, She will bring the Women and the Blacks and and she has true credentials on a global level.

We don't need another Bob Dole who gets to run just because its HIS TURN.


3 posted on 05/29/2005 2:47:32 PM PDT by konaice
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To: konaice

Here comes the anti senator wing of the FR. Condi doesnt guaruntee she'll bring the blacks or women and she has no elected experience. Not to mention shes pro abort and pro aff action which will hurt her with the base. This whole a Senator can't win was only brought up and hammered relentlessly through the 2004 campaign so republicans could feel better about themselves when Kerry was nominated. Kerry was a looser candidate who'd compromise and flip flopped on dozens of issues throughout his tenure as a Senator and he came 100k votes of the presidency.

George Allen is no Bob Dole and to compare him to Bob Dole is an insult.


4 posted on 05/29/2005 2:50:18 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: konaice

Condi will cost you the pro-life vote. If you want to throw the election to Hillary, nominate Condi. She has also said repeatedly that she has no interest in running.

Allen was Governor before he was Senator. Right now he's looking like the best we have.


5 posted on 05/29/2005 2:51:49 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: konaice

I don't know about Allen--

The theory that I have heard about why Senators don't get elected as POTUS is because they have a voting history that can trip them up--plus, they don't have the experience of "running" a city or state, which would give them executive experience...

I think that fact that George Allen has only been a senator for a short time, which gives him a short voting history, plus the fact that he was a Governor, like George Bush, and Bill Clinton, gives him a leg-up over other senators...

My gosh, the MSM has already crowned Mrs. Bubba, and she is a senator...but hasn't been even a mayor, let alone governor!!!


6 posted on 05/29/2005 2:52:49 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: konaice

This conversation is really getting old!!!!! Dr. Rice has absolutely no qualifications to be President. She does not want to be President.


7 posted on 05/29/2005 2:53:03 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Vigilanteman

1808 and 1912?


8 posted on 05/29/2005 2:53:05 PM PDT by thoughtomator (The U.S. Constitution poses no serious threat to our form of government)
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To: SDGOP

To compare G. Allen to Bob Dole is an insult!!!!!! Isn't that the truth!!!!!!!!!!


9 posted on 05/29/2005 2:54:32 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: thoughtomator

wilson was gov of NJ not Mass


10 posted on 05/29/2005 2:57:16 PM PDT by senateforcaster
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To: mariabush

I honestly dont know why everyone's so keen on Condi for president. NObody knows her stance on most of the issues besides foreign policy and thats why i think she'd make a good veep choice. Plus do you really want to put somone in there who has 0 campaigning experience?

On a side note i read an article a few months back in the WaPo and heard drudge also mention it that the DNC has a huge file on Condi i wonder whats in there.


11 posted on 05/29/2005 2:58:06 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: senateforcaster

the first one has to be Monroe, because he had a virtual sweep, which means the second one is Coolige, which makes sense because Coolige was the former MA gov


12 posted on 05/29/2005 2:58:15 PM PDT by senateforcaster
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To: Vigilanteman

On a side note anyone know how much Mitt is worth? I know hes loaded but i can never find a figure.


13 posted on 05/29/2005 3:00:59 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: senateforcaster
the first one has to be Monroe, because he had a virtual sweep, which means the second one is Coolige, which makes sense because Coolige was the former MA gov

Absolutely.

14 posted on 05/29/2005 3:04:52 PM PDT by Skylab
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To: Skylab

1820 & 1924.


15 posted on 05/29/2005 3:05:26 PM PDT by Skylab
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To: SDGOP
"Nobody knows her stance on most of the issues besides foreign policy....who has 0 campaigning experience"

Not only those but since she has no experience running for elected office she doesn't have a Rolodex of donors. Her chances of raising the kind of money needed to get the nomination are zero and none.

Add to that the Republican party will NEVER run a pro-death candidate just like the dims will never run a pro-life candidate.

We'll have a better fix on the horse race by next year when we see who's able to get the heavy donors to whip out the checkbooks.

16 posted on 05/29/2005 3:05:57 PM PDT by Proud_texan (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: SDGOP

With Drudge you can never tell. I have never heard anything out of the way about Condi. I really believe that she is above board, I just do not want a woman as CIC.


17 posted on 05/29/2005 3:08:28 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: Vigilanteman
104 yrs apart, and completely different demographic now. Romney, no matter what he says outside MA. no matter what party he is in, is a Lib from MA. BAD idea. I seriously hope the Republicans can do better than that. He is much more to the left than even McCain.

Allen would be one to look at, IMO (though what's that worth), Huckabee is a great conservative, (not sure his name goes with "President" but that shouldn't matter. And one other I saw tossed around, but don't remember who.

I pray not Romney. Anyone think there may just be a Rep. Primary, with several to pick from? LOL
18 posted on 05/29/2005 3:10:51 PM PDT by gidget7 (Get GLSEN out of our schools!!!!!!)
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To: strategofr
I want Condi to run on a federalist libertarian platform so she could put up justices to put abortion in charge of the individual states and give tax breaks(not vouchers because that will lead to government intervention) to people who provide their own children's education.
19 posted on 05/29/2005 3:13:22 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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To: nina0113

Not if she defaults to a position of federalism on Roe vs Wade. That is her weakest issue and if she resolves it then she is our only shot IMO to win in 2008.


20 posted on 05/29/2005 3:15:54 PM PDT by bahblahbah
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