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To: strategofr

Nope, Allen can't win. No senator can.

The only chance the Repubs have of holding on to the presidency is Condi, She will bring the Women and the Blacks and and she has true credentials on a global level.

We don't need another Bob Dole who gets to run just because its HIS TURN.


3 posted on 05/29/2005 2:47:32 PM PDT by konaice
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To: konaice

Here comes the anti senator wing of the FR. Condi doesnt guaruntee she'll bring the blacks or women and she has no elected experience. Not to mention shes pro abort and pro aff action which will hurt her with the base. This whole a Senator can't win was only brought up and hammered relentlessly through the 2004 campaign so republicans could feel better about themselves when Kerry was nominated. Kerry was a looser candidate who'd compromise and flip flopped on dozens of issues throughout his tenure as a Senator and he came 100k votes of the presidency.

George Allen is no Bob Dole and to compare him to Bob Dole is an insult.


4 posted on 05/29/2005 2:50:18 PM PDT by SDGOP
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To: konaice

Condi will cost you the pro-life vote. If you want to throw the election to Hillary, nominate Condi. She has also said repeatedly that she has no interest in running.

Allen was Governor before he was Senator. Right now he's looking like the best we have.


5 posted on 05/29/2005 2:51:49 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: konaice

I don't know about Allen--

The theory that I have heard about why Senators don't get elected as POTUS is because they have a voting history that can trip them up--plus, they don't have the experience of "running" a city or state, which would give them executive experience...

I think that fact that George Allen has only been a senator for a short time, which gives him a short voting history, plus the fact that he was a Governor, like George Bush, and Bill Clinton, gives him a leg-up over other senators...

My gosh, the MSM has already crowned Mrs. Bubba, and she is a senator...but hasn't been even a mayor, let alone governor!!!


6 posted on 05/29/2005 2:52:49 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice)
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To: konaice

This conversation is really getting old!!!!! Dr. Rice has absolutely no qualifications to be President. She does not want to be President.


7 posted on 05/29/2005 2:53:03 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ('We voted like we prayed")
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To: konaice
The only chance the Repubs have of holding on to the presidency is Condi, She will bring the Women and the Blacks and and she has true credentials on a global level.

The same strategy Shirley Chisholm used to win the Presidency!

24 posted on 05/29/2005 3:20:17 PM PDT by Cowboy Bob (Question Liberalism)
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To: konaice

Ditto.


48 posted on 05/29/2005 5:41:56 PM PDT by Savage Beast (The Left IS the Dark Side.)
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To: konaice
Dr. Rice has good academic credentials, but she has no experience as an executive. We don't know whether she's capable of running anything bigger than a department staff meeting in the political science department of a university. You can claim that senators don't win presidential elections, but former senators have a better chance than former professors do. Dr. Rice is a smart lady, but there's nothing to suggest that she's qualified to be president.

Senator Allen is not just a senator but is also a former governor. The reason that senators haven't won often is that most of them have nothing more than legislative experience. Good legislators are not necessarily good executives, and that's why some people question the jump from the U.S. Senate to the White House. As a former governor, George Allen has already shown that he can be an executive.

Bill

59 posted on 05/29/2005 7:48:16 PM PDT by WFTR (Liberty isn't for cowards)
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To: konaice

The only Presidential office Condi is seeking is the head of the NFL. She's not interested in running for the White House in 2008, and has made that point on numerous occasions. McCain can run, but he'll never win as a member of the GOP. That leaves Senator Allen.


62 posted on 05/29/2005 8:57:14 PM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (A Democrat is a Democrat; Liberal a Liberal ; Tiger is a Tiger)
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To: konaice

I heard Gingrich say this "his turn" business at one of Newt's townhall meetings during the election run-up and it made me sick to my stomach. IMO the republicans "knew" they could not win against Clinton's second term and "awarded" the candidacy to Dole as a going away prresent. What a waste. A vigorous candidacy might have improved the Republican Senate and House count and at least "sharpened the sword" as Steven Covey would say. Alas, yesterday, opportunities lost. We need Republicans who don't need VIAGRA to get it done!


74 posted on 05/30/2005 6:15:58 AM PDT by Les_Miserables
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To: konaice
The only chance the Repubs have of holding on to the presidency is Condi...

Okay, I'll bite. Let's say you're right that no Senator can win, or has won in recent years.

When was the last time a person was elected President who had never held elective office?

75 posted on 05/30/2005 6:53:47 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://www.cafepress.com/wardsmythe / FREE Mudboy Slim!)
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To: konaice


Please think of what you just wrote. Condi won't win anything. She's a great lady, but she is also pro-abortion. The base of the GOP will not accept a pro-abortion candidate. George Allen is also a former governor. He has what it takes to win. Condi is not Ike -- one of the few never to have held elective office before winning the presidency.


107 posted on 06/01/2005 9:01:04 PM PDT by sruleoflaw
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