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Newspaper Claims Former DOJ Officials Confirm Bombing Coverup (Clinton's DOJ & FBI)
KTOK.com ^ | 7/14/2005 | Jerry Bohnen

Posted on 07/15/2005 9:05:52 PM PDT by ex-Texan

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To: _Jim
Working weekends now, I see.

All bureaucrats should be so dedicated.

81 posted on 07/16/2005 10:48:06 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: justshutupandtakeit

I can't bear to wait for your predictable reply.


82 posted on 07/16/2005 10:49:03 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: Wil H

Wasn't one of the hilacked planes on 9-11 headed toward the senate....


83 posted on 07/16/2005 11:11:19 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: ex-Texan
With the amount of vociferous inciting to have an incident, isn't it just possible that Strassmeier was an agent provacateur and not what he appeared to be? Seems I heard once, long ago, that the guy who was yelling the loudest to blow things up and kill people in the room was probably the federal plant... This would provide all the more incentive for the FBI to ignore him Strassmeier, and later shift the blame to the ATF, who may have been counseled to ignore the whole thing. As for Eloihim City, the story got out, but appeared to reflect ill on right winged extremists than any agency plants. That did not explain the treatment of Carol Howe, however.

In the Clinton era interagency turf wars, this would cover the FBI's butt, make ATF look even less competent, and FBI look better. Mo' Budget!

With Clinton's demonstrated (later) wag the dog way of getting his parts out of trouble, it would not be beyond him, imo, to let the bombing go on, paint the bombing as an exclusively home grown act of 'evil right winged terror', and cut any Federal investigative or muslim connections out of the picture for the sake of demonizing the right, gun owners, and anyone who was upset/pissed off and calling for an investigation of the slaughter at Waco.

Not too long before this, iirc, it was the federal (FBI Guy) informant who showed Rachmann's guys how to make the bomb for the '93 WTC bombing.

84 posted on 07/16/2005 11:47:20 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Quite possible although this article did not make much of a connection between the two.

A fundamental philosophical connection exists in the animosity toward Jews found in much of both groups.

85 posted on 07/16/2005 11:57:06 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (Grant no power to government you would not want your worst enemies to wield against you.)
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To: _Jim

_Jim, if that's what we were doing you'd have a point. As I said, if...

Take care _Jim.


86 posted on 07/17/2005 7:12:07 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: logician2u
I can't bear to wait for your predictable reply.

Is that good wording for a logician? Just asking, but for a dumb fellow like me it seems that "can't bear" indicates an anxiousness to see the reply and "predictable" means you already know what it is going to say. Can you really look forward to something you already know, especially if you disagree with it? Again, just asking.

87 posted on 07/17/2005 1:56:21 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
Don't read too much into it or your numbness will wear off!

Anxiety has nothing to do with it. "Can't bear to wait" means just as it says: I won't -- and didn't -- wait for takeit's state-loving, groveling remarks (assuming he/she/it ever bothered to read the thread), which have become very predictable when any topic concerning federal police agencies' malfeasance and misdeeds is being scrutinized.

But I think you knew that already.

88 posted on 07/17/2005 3:43:07 PM PDT by logician2u
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To: logician2u

Most of it is familiar and somewhat believable. My impression is that McVEigh was working with the Islamo-fascists. His last letter to the public was primarily about the suffering of the Iraqis as a result of the Gulf War and its sanctions. He said nothing about Waco.


89 posted on 07/17/2005 8:37:38 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Public Enemy #1, the RATmedia.)
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To: logician2u
But I think you knew that already.

Yep, I was just ribbing you. Sorry I wasted your time.

90 posted on 07/17/2005 9:20:09 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: logician2u
Recall, for example, that Rush Limbaugh immediately took the bait about "hate radio" and portrayed himself as the victim of Clinton's spurious charges.

Limbaugh must have caught the undertones of what the dems were up to -- many of us did too. Conservatives jumped on the Internet and flooded chat rooms with talk about our VRWC membership cards, decoder rings, etc. The Clinton's were playing for real, and the only way to defuse what they had set up was to make it silly. And it worked. The "insiders" became embarrassed about their "secret" information and the stuff about middle class middle ages white men being the biggest threat to the Nation fell into the dust bin of history. Thank God - it was close.

If it hadn't been for Hillary jumping the gun and talking about the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, it might have worked. But when she said it, and people could respond, she looked like a "black helicopter conspiracy nut." Thank God she spoke out of school.

I knew what the left was saying about the VRWC before Hillary went public with it. It wasn't a joke. They weren't kidding. It was the most totalitarian move/tactic this country has ever experienced.

91 posted on 07/18/2005 9:56:34 AM PDT by GOPJ (Phil Donahue "has made the world safe for emotion masquerading as thought."-BOZELL III)
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To: logician2u
It's obvious to everyone except the left-leaning media that Limbaugh had about as much use for a person like Timothy McVeigh as goal posts do in a baseball game.

When the Unibomber wrote the same type of garbage as Gore, the MSM didn't for a second, think he represented democrats. Why would they think an evil nut like McVeigh would represent Republicans? Are they blinded by their bias?

92 posted on 07/18/2005 8:55:17 PM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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To: Perdogg

This is like Christmas in October. Let's hope all those providing this crucial info stay alive.


93 posted on 10/06/2005 2:48:14 PM PDT by CT
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To: ex-Texan
“Look at Waco. Just look at Waco,” he repeated.

Waco never happened - just ask Janet Reno.....

94 posted on 10/06/2005 2:53:29 PM PDT by patriot_wes (papal infallibility - a proud tradition since 1869)
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