Boat owners say they were fearful during Coast Guard search

The Monterey Herald ^ | September 18, 2005 | VIRGINIA HENNESSEY

[MikefromOhio]

hey take, shove it up your aHss....


HHB 1/134th Field Artillery Apr 98 to Mar 01

[Neil E. Wright]

Tonk ... Hiya Shipmate, sorry for the delay in responding to your #649. I kept clicking on the reply "to #xxx" all the way back to #575. Interesting discussion, to say the least.

takenoprisoner, you sir, are a moron. Your post at #575 was beyond the pale. You owe our CG sailors and Reserve and NG soldiers a HUGE apology. And you kept stepping in it in later replies where you made aspersive attacks on other posters.

Then, you said: I never "slammed" the Coasties nor the National Guard. When that is EXACTLY what you did in your #575. And all you sickos out here who suck the wangs of the gestapo warriors ,,,

... gestapo warriors ... sure looks like a "slam" to me.

To the question of service, Tonk is correct, I have a copy of his DD214 in the VetsCoR files. Certainly, your post at #575 raises questions about your "alleged" service. I would surely question the service of any veteran who denegrated all their younger brothers and sisters currently serving.

As proof of your "service" you have just listed a bunch of "alleged" duty stations. I'll ask DCWUSMC to respond to your list separately. If you did indeed serve and you can address our current service members as you did, I would call that "kerry-esque" at the very least. If you would care to mail me a copy of your DD214, you'll find the address at www.vetscor.org.

Are all our current service members honorable and upstanding people? Of course not, but the service does its best to weed out the bad apples. Do our current service members make mistakes? Of course they do, they're human. But your blanket smear at #575 is a slap at the vast, overwhelming majority of those who have taken the oath to uphold and defend our Constitution, just as we who went before did. You have done to our current service members what Kerry did to our generation of soldiers.

I will look forward to seeing your apology to our Armed Forces on this thread soon.

±

"The Era of Osama lasted about an hour, from the time the first plane hit the tower to the moment the General Militia of Flight 93 reported for duty."
Toward FREEDOM

[MikefromOhio]

BTTT!!!!!


Thank you Sir!

[Darksheare]

Bump and thanks!

[MamaB]

So, it is ok to break the law as long as it is just a little bit?

[takenoprisoner]

"takenoprisoner, you sir, are a moron. "

And you sir need to be reminded of the 4th amendement of the Constitution of these United States. So much for your belief in adherence in same.

It is indeed sad that the CG was used in such manner. It is Lt Warren who needs to apologize to the CG and not me. Had my Marines done this today I would be just as outraged. I swore an oath to uphold the Constitution of these United States. I will honor that oath for as long as I shall live. Sorry to hear sir that you have a problem with it.

Just because it was the CG in this case that has violated our most sacred document, I cannot nor will not excuse in any manner the violation.

The CG owes those citizen boaters an apology for rousting them in the middle of the night. I don't owe you or anyone else any apology for standing my ground on our Constitution.

Furthermore, I cannot believe someone who formed the Veterans for the Restoration of the Constitution does not have a problem with this roust of citizen boaters who were docked in a private harbor and most of them asleep with their families.

Indeed I do regret it was the CG. What's next, Marines going door to door in America's suburbs?

You sir need to rethink this if you are indeed what you present yourself as.

with all respect,
tnp

[Darksheare]

"You sir need to rethink this if you are indeed what you present yourself as."


First you slam the Coast Guard as 'gestapo warriors', then you claim that isn't what you said.
And then you continue to put your foot in your mouth.
And now you ADD to it:

"What's next, Marines going door to door in America's suburbs? "

Are you saying the Marine Corps are getsapo warriors?
Is that seriously what you want to say?
And no, YOU need to rethink what YOU present yourself as.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"It is indeed sad that the CG was used in such manner. It is Lt Warren who needs to apologize to the CG and not me."

takenoprisoner : Please forward me the full, complete, Coast Guard investigation.

AND not the slanted media version of "the facts"

Since you are the judge AND jury you must have ALL the facts.

Thank You

[MikefromOhio]

Since you are the judge AND jury you must have ALL the facts.

As they say Takenoprisoner, you have been OWNED. Have a nice day.

[dcwusmc]

Let's calm down. I was Plt 336, Parris Island (1967), Camp Geiger (ITR), NAS JaxFla for AE "A" school, MCAF New River, Phu Bai RVN, etc...

Now. If this happened as described, it was a despicable abuse of authority and the perps should be hung higher than Haman. That said, there is a lot of sense in doing some more research, rather than depending solely on a single source for your info. If there needs to be a lynching after that, I'll help spring the trap. Yes, I found the story inflammatory. That is not a rationale for tarring all who serve with the same brush, which is the net result, if not the intent. MANY of us are on the same side here, we just need some calm and deliberate research and investigation. Like any public statements by the Coasties on why they were in that marina at that time of night, waking folks up. That much seems established, as does the part with the arming of the boarding party. So let's find out why, then tar and feather the higherups who authorized this sort of activity, if it seems warranted. Also, perhaps circumscribing the LEO aspects of the Coast Guard might not be a bad notion. But let's proceed apace, at a CALM pace and not alienate our allies, like Tonk. Some of the others here are authoritarian trolls who deserve whatever we can dish up for them. That's not Tonk.

More to follow eventually.

SF
DC Wright

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks for the ping.

This old Squid get very protective of our Coastie Brothers.

Excellent jot by the Zot Master Jim Rob.

[RaceBannon]

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/eibessential/illustrating_absurdity/gallery_25.guest.html

[verity]

"And all you sickos out here who suck the wangs of the gestapo warriors do not deserve to live in a nation born for freedom. 575 posted on 09/26/2005 8:08:37 AM PDT by takenoprisoner (illegally posting on an expired tag)

Allowing this indicates your standards have eroded.

[Sloth]

Warren said the officers were attempting to ensure the safety and compliance of docked boats by checking for oily water in their bilges and that their sanitation devices were in locked position. Some searches were conducted at night in an effort to catch boats before they went onto the bay for the weekend.

"Also, some beatings were administered to ensure that future safety searches would not be hindered by recalcitrant boat owners."

[Sloth]

The soldiers and leos who took part in dragging people out of their homes and seizing their guns and the coasties who took part in seizing people's yatchs over 4 seeds are traitors to America. They are scum.

You may be zotted, but that doesn't stop you from being right.