Skip to comments.Scientists: 1918 Killer Spanish Flu Was a Bird Flu
Posted on 10/05/2005 11:20:11 AM PDT by stm
Scientists who re-created the 1918 Spanish flu say the killer virus was initially a bird flu that learned to infect people. Alarmingly, they find that today's H5N1 bird flu is starting to learn the same tricks.
The work involves researchers from the Armed Forces Institute of Pathology (AFIP), the CDC, Mount Sinai School of Medicine, and the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Jeffery K. Taubenberger, MD, PhD, chief of molecular pathology at the AFIP, is one of the study leaders.
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We're doomed. Yawn.
The Byrd Flu?.........
Yo! General Custer, I think I see an Indian over there.
Considering both my parents survived the 1918 Pandemic, I wonder if the immunity is passed on.
Apparently all our ancestors survived.
SAARS, Dengue fever, West Nile, AIDS...this record is definitely broken. The Spanish flu flourished and spread so quickly due to a non-existent pathognic containment policy and the crowded and squalid conditions of cities like Chicago, New York and Boston. But those facts arent sexy and dont somehow jive with the position that we shouldnt be in Iraq and that the money should be put into an even larger government bureaucracy to protect us from the new "Pandemic".
Not enough coffee today.... ( ;
But, 30 years ago it was the Swine Flu that had the world in a tizzy. Shots for old people. mass media warnings to get shots, media mobbing one pig farmer who did get the flu.
It turned out to be a bust. No plague of flu. no masive deaths, except some older people who died in line waiting for the shots.
I swear on the Fox crawl last night, it said Spanish FLY not Spanish FLU.....
The guy typing the text into the crawler must have been looking at Laurie Dhue and made a Freudian slip.
Laurie, keep an eye on your drink next time you go out with the gang for cocktails...
We're in a different world than 1918 or even 30 years ago. Hygiene is at a whole different level. Did people even brush their teeth daily yet in 1918? Did they wash their hands at all?
Buncha tadoo over nothing imho...
But we are more modern, some would say. Yes, but that modern travel lets it spread faster and modern antibiotics don't work on a viral infectous disease.
The worst strain of avian flu, now identified of the five current, that is the most virulant is currently running a 75% fatality rate.
Bird virus infecting a human will mutate as soon as it hits a human already infected with human flu. Then it will spread human to human and the only question is will it mutate with the leathal characteristics.
If we were dealing with an epidemic, instead of a possible pandemic for a more fatal strain, then the current 170,000 respirators would cover the 105,000 utilized in a normal bad year, but with a pandemic, respirator supplies, vaccine development and manufacture and all the other needed tools could end up to be too-little, too-late.
Finally, the last thing my browsing in the last few months has given me to worry about is the fact that the 1918 pandemic had more than half or its fatalities in the healthy 18 to 40 age range due to how vigourously a healthy body tries to fight off a virulant influenze. The body poisons itself much like toxic shock in a reaction called Cytokine Storm.
Now, I don't like being an alarmist, but having just watched New Orleans learn that failing to allow for a Cat 4-5 is a serious lack of prudence, I think that the New England Journal of Medicine is a fairly conservative and non-alarmist source:
Should H5N1 become the next pandemic strain, the resultant morbidity and mortality could rival those of 1918, when more than half the deaths occurred among largely healthy people between 18 and 40 years of age and were caused by a virus-induced cytokine storm (see diagram) that led to the acute respiratory distress syndrome (ARDS).4 The ARDS-related morbidity and mortality in the pandemic of 1918 was on a different scale from those of 1957 and 1968 a fact that highlights the importance of the virulence of the virus subtype or genotype. Clinical, epidemiologic, and laboratory evidence suggests that a pandemic caused by the current H5N1 strain would be more likely to mimic the 1918 pandemic than those that occurred more recently.5 If we translate the rate of death associated with the 1918 influenzavirus to that in the current population, there could be 1.7 million deaths in the United States and 180 million to 360 million deaths globally. We have an extremely limited armamentarium with which to handle millions of cases of ARDS one not much different from that available to the front-line medical corps in 1918.
I saw on FNC crawler a few days ago, "USS Iowa Jima enroute to..."
I was wondering if the Navy had welded together a helo carrier to a WWII battlewagon... :^)
I was in the service then and had to have the shot.
Wasn't up to par for 3 months after.
My great uncle died from it in 1918. He was about 12 years old.
It's entirely possible. The "y" and "u" are next to each other on the keyboard and Fox is notorious for misspellings or typos, both on the TV and the web
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