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Bloggers Battle Over Cheney Misfire
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Posted on 02/18/2006 8:11:05 AM PST by doesnt suffer fools gladly

Bloggers Battle Over Cheney Misfire

(Feb. 18) -- Vice President Dick Cheney's weekend misfire brought verbal combat to a boil between left- and right-leaning bloggers.

The Kenedy County Sheriff's Department has closed its investigation into Cheney's accidental shooting of hunting pal Harry Whittington and issued a report that largely supports the vice president's account of the weekend's events.

But that hasn't stopped the shooting in cyberspace, where liberal bloggers were particularly riled up over the role alcohol might have played in the mishap.

Many bloggers on the left also smelled a cover up, while many right-leaning bloggers said it was all much ado about nothing.

The nearly 24-hour delay in reporting the accident immediately ignited suspicion on the left.

Attorney-turned-blogger, Alan Dershowitz speculated: "What is the most likely thing to happen during a 14-hour delay that is worth the negative publicity? One possibility is that it takes approximately that period of time for alcohol to dissipate in the body and no longer be subject to accurate testing. It is fairly common for people involved in alcohol-related accidents to delay reporting them until the alcohol has left the body."

Liberal comedian Al Franken was also suspicious. Why didn't Cheney accompany Whittington to the hospital, he questioned. "It’s inconceivable that you don’t go to the hospital unless there’s a reason you don’t go to the hospital. If you had been drinking you wouldn’t go to the hospital," Franken said. "Or, you’re an amazing jerk, that’s the other. Or both."

But Paul at the conservative Wizbang blog offers a simpler explanation. "If he had allowed this to get out 'fast break style' the media would have screwed it up completely. Totally and completely," he blogs. "Can anyone blame him for not wanting the story to come out screwed up?"

Missouri State University Professor Andrew Cline at Rhetorica agrees Cheney was just playing smart politics. "I can't blame Cheney for making an excellent choice in how to play this situation," he blogs.

Cheney's television interview Wednesday night also roiled the waters since his his account differed from the report ranch owner Katherine Armstrong gave to a Corpus Christi newspaper Monday.

When asked during the television interview whether anyone in the group had been drinking, Cheney replied, "No, you don't hunt with people who drink. That's not a good idea."

Nevertheless, the vice president acknowledged he did have a beer at lunch. Liberal bloggers pounced on the fact that Armstrong insisted there was no drinking. "No, zero, zippo, and I don't drink at all. No one was drinking," Armstrong said in an interview in The Corpus Christi Caller-Times.

"Cheney's admission that he was drinking, along with Armstrong's clumsy attempts to downplay the alcohol issue raises more questions than it answers …," blogs John Nichols, author of "The Rise and Rise of Richard B. Cheney." "As with her over-the-top efforts to blame Whittington, the victim, for getting in the way of Cheney's birdshot blast, Armstrong's line on liquor smells a little more like an attempt to cover for the Vice President than full disclosure," Nichols writes.

But conservative Mark Coffey derides liberal bloggers for raising Cheney's lunchtime drink as an issue: "… By the same token I drank before I came to work today — it was weeks ago, but it was before I came to work today," he jokes.

Some liberal bloggers turned to conservatives for ammunition.

Liberal blog Think Progress said conservative pundit Tucker Carlson said on air it was “totally unacceptable” for Cheney to drink prior to hunting. “I’ve been on dozens of hunts, there’s no beer served as lunch. You can’t drink a beer if you shoot, period. Doesn’t matter if you’re shooting five hours after, you’re not allowed to do it,” Carlson said.

It's not the first time Cheney's drinking habits have been in the spotlight. A 2000 Rolling Stone article recounts Cheney's time at Yale before he was forced to leave after completing one full year. "He spent his time partying with guys who loved football but weren't varsity quality," recalls Stephen Billings, an Episcopalian minister who roomed with him during Cheney's freshman year at Yale.

A Smoking Gun investigation also revealed several of Cheney's brushes with the law over drinking. Cheney's first DWI conviction came in November 1962 when he was 21. According to a docket from Cheyenne's Municipal Court, Cheney was charged with drunkenness and "operating motor vehicle while intoxicated."

A Cheyenne Police Judge found Cheney guilty of the two charges and his driver's license was suspended for 30 days. Cheney also had to forfeit a $150 bond posted at the time of his arrest. In a second incident, Cheney was arrested in July 1963, and fined $100 for his second DWI conviction.

But conservatives said the liberals were just blowing smoke.

Conservative radio commentator Brian Maloney thinks liberal bloggers are just on the prowl for information to bad-mouth the vice president. "Evidence, who needs evidence? On the left, it's conspiracy-huntin' season," Maloney blogs. "Without hesitation, one could easily expect the left to go ballistic were conservatives to make similar baseless charges against a Democrat."

By week's end, mainstream media interest in the Cheney story had waned, but the battle raged on in cyberspace.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cheney; harrywhittington; weblogs

1 posted on 02/18/2006 8:11:07 AM PST by doesnt suffer fools gladly
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To: doesnt suffer fools gladly

It's SEE BS, not like it is a serious or credible source of Information!


2 posted on 02/18/2006 8:12:49 AM PST by MNJohnnie ("Close the UN, Keep Gitmo!")
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Here's the essence of thee fight...

WOULD YOU RATHER GO HUNTING WITH DICK CHENEY,
ARE DRIVE ACROSS A BRIDGE WITH TED KENNEDY ?

3 posted on 02/18/2006 8:13:26 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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Here's the essence of the fight...

WOULD YOU RATHER GO HUNTING WITH DICK CHENEY,
ARE DRIVE ACROSS A BRIDGE WITH TED KENNEDY ?

4 posted on 02/18/2006 8:13:58 AM PST by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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This CBS article first claims (amount of time delay): "The nearly 24-hour delay in reporting the accident immediately ignited suspicion on the left."

Then immediately in the next sentence they print: "Attorney-turned-blogger, Alan Dershowitz speculated: "What is the most likely thing to happen during a 14-hour delay that is worth the negative publicity?"

They neglect to mention that medical treatment was provided immediately and that the sheriff was promptly notified.

But CBS is able to bring up a 43 year ago DWI charge.

5 posted on 02/18/2006 8:16:38 AM PST by frankjr
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"By week's end, mainstream media interest in the Cheney story had waned, but the battle raged on in cyberspace."
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Because they were finally forced to admit it is a non story and Cheney told the truth and did the right thing. Prior to that they were having the same collective hissy fit as the lib bloggers had and continue to have.


6 posted on 02/18/2006 8:19:06 AM PST by fizziwig (Democrats: so far off the path, so incredibly vicious, so sadly pathetic.)
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Cute: The media is adapting to the internet in their own stupid self-defeating way.

The internet keeps them from making up their own lies- but they can use the remarks of anti-Republican bloggers to broadcast those lies anyway by citation.

7 posted on 02/18/2006 8:25:19 AM PST by mrsmith
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Hmmmm...a CBS story about left and right bloggers duking it out...and only the arguments hurting Cheney mentioned...amazing.
8 posted on 02/18/2006 8:31:24 AM PST by TankerKC (Pull your head out.)
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To: Jeff Head
WOULD YOU RATHER GO HUNTING WITH DICK CHENEY, OR DRIVE ACROSS A BRIDGE WITH TED KENNEDY ?


9 posted on 02/18/2006 8:37:27 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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liberal bloggers were particularly riled up over the role alcohol might have played in the mishap

"might have" ... damn. They "might have" won in 2000, 2002, 2004

I'd sure hate to live in a bizarro world where "might have" is as good as it gets.

10 posted on 02/18/2006 8:38:09 AM PST by tx_eggman (Islamofascism ... bringing you the best of the 7th century for the past 1300 years.)
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The OLD Media...

Sitting in armchairs waiting for handouts not the best way to get scoops

Members of the elite White House press corps this week have acted more like animals that have been kept in captivity for so long that they can’t find news unless it is forced down their open gullets at a daily press briefing.

The Cheney hunting accident story embarrassingly revealed this fact, which probably explains the greater-than-normal anger and outrage of White House correspondents over the last few days.

“Why weren’t we told?” has been the refrain, not “How did we miss that story?”

The White House press corps does very little news gathering, if by that we mean beating the bushes to find out things.

Instead, they sit in a comfortable auditorium and wait to be told things.


11 posted on 02/18/2006 8:50:44 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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12 posted on 02/18/2006 8:52:25 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Did Mary mapes write this? Sounds like her work

Just because we have no evidence it doesnt make it wrong.


13 posted on 02/18/2006 9:21:22 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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First, the entire MSM gets scooped by a "Podunk" local newspaper.

Next, they get a refresher class in basic responsible journalism by that same newspaper. (The Corpus Christi Times-Call)

Finally, they get so frustrated with the whole thing that CBS is actually making BLOGGERS a credible source......

ROFLMAO!!!

Maybe the MSM would be better off completely dropping all mention of the accident and hoping it just goes away. That bunch of stiffs have shot themselves in the foot so many times over the last week, there aren't any aiming points left below their crotch.


14 posted on 02/18/2006 9:53:37 AM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet (Target too close for missiles; switching to guns.)
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Tucker Carlson said on air it was “totally unacceptable” for Cheney to drink prior to hunting. “I’ve been on dozens of hunts, there’s no beer served as lunch. You can’t drink a beer if you shoot, period. Doesn’t matter if you’re shooting five hours after, you’re not allowed to do it,” Carlson said.

This idiot must think all hunting jaunts are planned by Martha Stewart and Miss Manners.

15 posted on 02/18/2006 10:11:05 AM PST by tiki
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Derschitwitz notes a correlation between the 14-hour delay and the time it might take for Cheney's blood alcohol content (BAC) to return to zero, but this implies an earlier public announcement somehow could have forced a check of Cheney's BAC.

Note the skewed view of media prowess. This is nonsense.

With the sheriff on site at the Armstrong ranch within the hour after the incident, if alcohol had in any way been deemed a contributing factor, an entirely-timely evaluation of Cheney's BAC could have been taken, irrespective of some media outcry.

In a guy the body mass of Cheney, one beer might have been worth .017 a half hour later, but after two and a half hours his BAC would have returned to .00. (See charts below.)

http://www.drunkdrivingdefense.com/general/bac.htm http://www.drunkdrivingdefense.com/general/bac-comparison-over-time.htm

If Cheney's BAC had been evaluated immediately prior to the incident, it would have been zero.

HF

16 posted on 02/18/2006 2:34:02 PM PST by holden (holden on'a'na truth, de whole truth, 'n nuttin' but de truth)
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