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Cyclic universe could explain cosmic balancing act
Nature Magazine ^ | 04 May 2006 | Philip Ball

Posted on 05/04/2006 12:02:17 PM PDT by PatrickHenry

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I like this theory. Donno why, but I like it.
1 posted on 05/04/2006 12:02:21 PM PDT by PatrickHenry
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2 posted on 05/04/2006 12:03:30 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Unresponsive to trolls, lunatics, fanatics, retards, scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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"we live in a preposterous universe", says cosmologist Sean Carroll....



You wonder, then, why scientists have such a problem with religion. Why is one brand of incredulity better than another?


3 posted on 05/04/2006 12:06:42 PM PDT by Brilliant
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I like this theory. Donno why, but I like it.

I lack the Ph.D level mathematics skill needed to understand modern theories about cosmology in any real way. Any language short of high-level mathematics is going to have trouble expressing the basis for these concepts.
4 posted on 05/04/2006 12:07:21 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: PatrickHenry

All this empty space and no one knows how it got here, let alone how some of it filled up with suns, planets, black holes, etc.(lots of theories but very little proof and changing all the time). No conclusion to reach from this post just a thought is all.


5 posted on 05/04/2006 12:08:28 PM PDT by calex59 (No country can survive multiculturalism. Dual cultures don't mix, history has taught us that!)
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To: PatrickHenry

So, the universe is like Swiss cheese?..........


6 posted on 05/04/2006 12:10:18 PM PDT by Red Badger (In warfare there are no constant conditions. --- The Art of War by SunTzu)
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Steinhardt and Turok say that their idea is testable. The cyclic model predicts that the Big Bang induces gravity waves in space, which physicists are now hunting for. And the decay of the vacuum energy predicts new types of fundamental particles called axions, which may also be detectable.

Big Science at its best! This is very interesting as it stands, I'm keen to see how the axion hunt goes!

7 posted on 05/04/2006 12:13:17 PM PDT by ToryHeartland ("The universe shares in God’s own creativity." - Rev. G.V.Coyne)
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"we live in a preposterous universe", says cosmologist Sean Carroll

After that verdict yesterday, who can argue?

8 posted on 05/04/2006 12:14:44 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Como se llama, bonita, mi casa, su casa)
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To: Brilliant

"we live in a preposterous universe", says cosmologist Sean Carroll...."
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Compared to what? Some other universe that isn't preposterous? LOL!


9 posted on 05/04/2006 12:15:33 PM PDT by fizziwig (Bushbotulism is a terrible thing to have....please get help..)
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No, no, that's the moon.


;-)


10 posted on 05/04/2006 12:16:10 PM PDT by green pastures
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That's preposterous!!


11 posted on 05/04/2006 12:17:32 PM PDT by eyespysomething (You know my hips don't lie.)
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To: green pastures

The moon is Green Cheese.......


12 posted on 05/04/2006 12:19:29 PM PDT by Red Badger (In warfare there are no constant conditions. --- The Art of War by SunTzu)
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To: PatrickHenry; RadioAstronomer

the bouncing ball theory (or, at least, hypothesis) has been around my whole life.

I keep wondering whether there's any evidence supporting the possibility that this sidereal reality is actually a composite of multiple contemporary or overlapping matter-energy eruptions at different loci.


13 posted on 05/04/2006 12:21:21 PM PDT by King Prout (many complain I am overly literal... this would not be a problem if fewer people were under-precise)
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Frankly, the "preposterous" quotes seemed to be encouraged by a reporter with little scientific background. I don't think the idea of an oscillating universe is that wild, or new.

On a deeper level, the scientists don't know what the heck they are talking about. Their theories and observations have led to a view of the universe that is way beyond common sense and starts to sound like magic, or God.

Just one teeny weeny example. The "cosmological constant" either doesn't exist, or they have no idea what it is. Their observations of the universe don't match what should be the behavior of the "stuff" they know to exist, so the cosmological constant is a number thrown in to make up for the difference. They have no idea what it is or if it is real.

15 posted on 05/04/2006 12:23:43 PM PDT by Williams
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Modern physicists especially enjoy coming up with explanations for things that don't make any sense, and then saying something like, "It doesn't have to make sense. It just has to describe reality. Reality doesn't necessarily make sense."

I think Einstein got that started when he came up with the Special Theory of Relativity, which seemed to contradict our common understandings. But the irony is that Einstein insisted that the Theory of Relativity not only made sense, but it was the only possible explanation that did make sense.


16 posted on 05/04/2006 12:24:13 PM PDT by Brilliant
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This makes me wonder if perhaps it's us living in the Bizarro Universe?


17 posted on 05/04/2006 12:25:12 PM PDT by SittinYonder (Como se llama, bonita, mi casa, su casa)
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I don't suppose that any of you could recommend a good layman's guide to physics. I took a look at 'physics for dummies' (no, I'm not kidding), but I'm not certain that I really trust that series to be accurate.


18 posted on 05/04/2006 12:28:02 PM PDT by Chiapet (I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, violence, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me)
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Yeah, you should see my goody-goody bizarro twin.


19 posted on 05/04/2006 12:28:47 PM PDT by eyespysomething (You know my hips don't lie.)
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To: PatrickHenry
I dimly recall reading this many years ago, perhaps as early as the 60s.
It was referred to as the oscillating Universe and was another alternative to the "Big Bang".

Bottom line, it's not new and, still, no one has a clue.

20 posted on 05/04/2006 12:30:05 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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