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Schachte ready to re-engage in Kerry Purple Heart dispute
The Post and Courier ^ | May 4, 2006 | Ron Brinson

Posted on 05/04/2006 1:13:03 PM PDT by Phil Harmonic

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To: Phil Harmonic

Hanoi John Kerry was a traitor back then and he is still a traitor back now.

Semper Fi'
Jarhead


81 posted on 05/05/2006 4:00:53 AM PDT by Buffettfan (VIVA LA MIGRA! - LONG LIVE THE MINUTEMEN!)
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To: Seadog Bytes

Great post!!! I LOVE it!


82 posted on 05/05/2006 5:17:13 AM PDT by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Agreed . . . along with a lot of other Senators et al.


83 posted on 05/05/2006 7:37:37 AM PDT by Quix (TRY JESUS. If you don't like Him, the devil will always take you back.-- Bible Belt Bumper Sticker)
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To: MarineBrat

Ain't that dude busy writing Democrat Fiction for TV?


84 posted on 05/05/2006 7:42:15 AM PDT by litehaus
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To: Phil Harmonic; FreedomPoster
[T]he Navy spokesman, Commander Hernandez, said the latest release does include the papers from St. Louis. "It's the whole record," he said.

I've never before heard of any story regarding a Navy spokesperson saying that the Navy had a complete record from St. Louis, and that it was all released. How could it be if there's no original DD214, not to mention all of the other missing stuff? (Stuffed down Sandy Burgler's pants?) I do however specifically recall a Navy spokesperson saying that there were "about 100" documents that hadn't been released. If Kerry ever wanted a job as a teacher, police officer or fireman he'd have to provide a DD214. How's come he can run for POTUS without providing one?

One other thing to consider.... if sKerry's release included everything from the NRO, why then didn't he just submit the 180 to the NRO and avoid providing his detractors yet another reason to slam him for being a conniving weasel?

85 posted on 05/05/2006 9:28:42 AM PDT by MarineBrat (Talk is cheap because supply exceeds demand.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Thank you. ...That was created in response to some Leftist tripe I received in email yesterday which whiningly denigrated Bush.
86 posted on 05/05/2006 10:40:49 AM PDT by Seadog Bytes (OPM - The Liberal 'solution' to every societal problem. (Other People's Money))
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To: kabar
So where are the rest of the records. He should have some sort of discharge papers for 1974. How did he get a 2 year extension on his discharge to 1976. Much is still missing!
87 posted on 05/05/2006 2:54:23 PM PDT by mountainlyons (Hard core conservative)
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How did he get a 2 year extension on his discharge to 1976

I am not versed enough in the details of his discharge scenario, but there's an "elephant in the middle of the room" crying out for clarification. Why in the name of John Paul Jones would an anti-war icon of Kerry's stature, who so openly slandered the military "at all levels of command" and expressed such contempt for government, voluntarily remain in the military reserves through the start of the Carter Administration in 1976? What am I missing here?

88 posted on 05/05/2006 3:30:32 PM PDT by Phil Harmonic
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So where are the rest of the records. He should have some sort of discharge papers for 1974. How did he get a 2 year extension on his discharge to 1976. Much is still missing!

I can see you are new to the dance. Prior to the 2004 election, many of us did a lot of research and had plenty of discussion on Kerry's service. Kerry was discharged from active duty on January 3, 1970 and went into the Naval reserves on inactive duty subject to involuntary recall to active duty subject to federal statute. He was required to keep the Navy informed of his mailing address and if he planned to travel or reside in a foreign country for more than 30 days, he had to provide a notice of intent.

Release from Active Duty

Kerry was discharged from the Inactive Reserves to the Standby Reserves-Inactive on July 1, 1972.

Transfer to Standby Reserves

Kerry was honorably discharged from the Reserves on February 16, 1978. You can find the document in the link I provided to you.

This is a summary of Kerry's Service

We have most of Kerry's official records except for the medical records and the documentation for the first PH. Some believe that Kerry was given a less than honorable discharge and that Carter gave him an honorable one. I don't believe that because I was a naval officer at the same time Kerry was. I had a regular commission, but I left the service on November 11, 1972 and was transferred into the Inactive Reserves. I didn't receive my honorable discharge until the same date as Kerry in 1978.

I could go into much more detail. I have printed out all of Kerry's records and tracked his service. There are questions about why all of his medal certificates were reissued in 1986 and signed by Lehman. Some of the language was altered. Kerry claims he never threw away his own medals, but I suspect he did and then after being elected to the Senate in 1984 and assuming office in 1985, he requested the new certificates. Presumably replacement medals were also issued.

Kerry is a phony. I just don't have the energy to go back over the same ground again. If Kerry gets the Dem nomination, I will be leading the charge to get all of Kerry's records released. He is hiding something. The supporting documents surrounding the awarding of his first PH are what I want to see. I think he forged the documents.

89 posted on 05/05/2006 3:31:27 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Phil Harmonic

Kalb is on Fox regularly and he always take the side of the MSM.


90 posted on 05/05/2006 3:33:33 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (There's nothing like hearing someone say thank you for your help.)
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To: Phil Harmonic
Kerry began his active duty on 16 Dec 1966 when he was commissioned as an Ensign. He had a six year obligation of active duty and inactive reserves. He served a little over three years on active duty and transfered to the naval reserves (inactive) on Jan 3, 1970. He was transferred to the standby-reserves- inactive on July 1, 1972 thus completing his six year obligation. On Feb 16, 1978 he was discharged from the Naval Reserve and received his Honorable Discharge.

Kerry had no choice but to remain in the standby reserves until 1978. Although I had a regular commission, I had a similar experience with virtually the same paperwork after I resigned my commission in 1972. I was in the Standby Reserves-Inactive until 1978, i.e., six years after my transfer to the Standby Reserves. I served almost 8 years on active duty.

Military Service Records of Senator John F. Kerry

91 posted on 05/05/2006 3:48:46 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
I don't believe that because I was a naval officer at the same time Kerry was. I had a regular commission, but I left the service on November 11, 1972 and was transferred into the Inactive Reserves. I didn't receive my honorable discharge until the same date as Kerry in 1978.

I'm a Viet Nam Vet and received my honorable in mid '73 after 5+ years active duty (Capt, USAR). I do recall receiving a letter from DOD (not sure exactly when, but I don't believe it was all that long after separation) asking me whether or not I wished to retain my USAR commission, which I declined. Do you recall if you also received such an inquiry and if you might have elected to retain your commission?

92 posted on 05/05/2006 3:49:22 PM PDT by Phil Harmonic
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To: Phil Harmonic

I doubt seriously that Kerry will go for the Dem nomination in '08. It would be a blood bath between the Kennedy/Kerry wing and the Clinton wing of the Dimorat Party.

RUN JOHN; RUN!!!


93 posted on 05/05/2006 3:51:51 PM PDT by no dems (A Winning Campaign Theme for a Conservative in '08: "PUTTING AMERICA FIRST")
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To: Phil Harmonic

I am a Vietnam vet as well, and unlike Kerry, served my year there. I did receive such a letter and if I recall correctly, I had to let them know if I wanted to retain my commission and remain in the reserves. Otherwise I would be separated. I took no action and received my honorable discharge as a LCDR, USNR.


94 posted on 05/05/2006 3:56:53 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
I took no action and received my honorable discharge as a LCDR, USNR.

We seem to corroborate one another's recall, and that somewhat begs the question I raised above. It just seems implausible to me that Kerry wouldn't have availed himself of an opportunity for a complete separation from the military service which he so obviously had come to despise. I know it's only speculation on my part, but mightn't he have been involuntarily extended pending disposition of...well...outstanding issues?

95 posted on 05/05/2006 4:05:35 PM PDT by Phil Harmonic
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It just seems implausible to me that Kerry wouldn't have availed himself of an opportunity for a complete separation from the military service which he so obviously had come to despise. I know it's only speculation on my part, but mightn't he have been involuntarily extended pending disposition of...well...outstanding issues?

Kerry has always wanted it both ways. He wanted to be the anti-war activist and the war hero. He used his Vietnam service and medals to run for office. During his run for office, it was interesting to note that he included on his web site, his service: active duty (1966-70) and naval reserves (1970-1978).

If you look at Kerry's various runs for office, he always uses the same template. He intimidates his opponents by touting his military record,i.e., Silver Star, Bronze Star, three PHs, and the dashing Swift Boat commander ala the other JFK. Until his loss to Bush, this template proved successful. His reporting for duty schtick at the Dem National convention, arriving by boat with his swift boat crew, and troting out retired flag officers supporting his candidacy would have worked against the Bush ANG record, except for the SBVFT who showed that the emperor had no clothes. Kerry's phony medals including the 3 PHs (no hospitalization) and four and one half months in Vietnam were on display for all to see and Kerry was caught like a deer in the headlights unable to answer the charges directly for over month while surrogates rushed in to discredit the Swiftees, who were essentially Kerry's entire chain of command and most of his fellow officers.

Kerry's senate office has his medals prominently displayed. He uses his military service like everything else, to promote John F'ing Kerry.

96 posted on 05/05/2006 4:23:26 PM PDT by kabar
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