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Iranian Alert - May 14, 2006 - Brzezinski rips Bush foreign policy [Jimmy's foreign advisor]
Regime Change Iran ^ | 5/14/06 | freedom44

Posted on 05/14/2006 11:07:37 AM PDT by freedom44


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Zbigniew Brzezinski — former Canadian and a McGill alumnus who rose to be Jimmy Carter's national security adviser — knows a thing or two about the broader Middle East, including Iran, having lived through the American hostage crisis on his watch.

I first met him in the 1980s in Pakistan while returning from Soviet-occupied Afghanistan, where he had helped initiate American support for the Afghan resistance.

On cutting off aid to the Palestinians for having elected Hamas, he said: "I think the American foreign policy is mindless. "When Likud came to power in 1977, it had a position on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict not fundamentally different from the position of Hamas; that is to say, all of the former Palestine should be part of Israel. Some Likud officials even felt the Palestinians should be expelled physically across the Jordan River. But we did not isolate or embargo the Likud government. We kept talking to it and over a period of time, the position of Likud evolved to the point that Likud itself accepted a two-state solution.

On Iran, Brzezinski has strongly opposed military action. In a recent article for the International Herald Tribune, he wrote that attacking Iran absent an imminent threat and without Security Council approval, "either alone or in complicity with Israel," would make it "an international outlaw." Also, such an attack would drive up oil prices. It would "significantly compound ongoing U.S. difficulties in Iraq and in Afghanistan, perhaps precipitate new violence by Hezbollah in Lebanon." It would make the U.S. "an even more likely target of terrorism." Even issuing military threats to Iran is counterproductive, he said, since such threats "unite Iranian nationalism with Shiite fundamentalism. They also reinforce growing international suspicions that the United States is even deliberately encouraging greater Iranian intransigence."

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1 posted on 05/14/2006 11:07:42 AM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44

Last thing this guy needs to be doing is chiding anyone for foreign policy decisions after the 79 revolution. He was one of the main people who forced the Shah to lay down arms and allow for the arrival of the Ayatollahs.


2 posted on 05/14/2006 11:09:10 AM PDT by freedom44
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To: freedom44

Bingo...this guy should take the blame, along with carter, for the terrorist mess we have to deal with today. The dims are WOEFULLY inept at foreign policy. If carter had left well enough alone, the Iranians might have some semblance of democracy today. They most certainly would have overthrown the ayatollahs back then, and kept along the path of westernization that the Shah had helped to foster.

The dnc spin machine must be scraping the bottom of the barrel since they can't find anyone current that the public will listen to on any issue. Didn't they trot out Ham Jordan only a few months ago on "Meet the Depressed"?

It's pretty sad that they have to go back 30 years to a complete out-of-touch carter water-carrier/mudslinger. Can anyone be more irrelevant?


3 posted on 05/14/2006 11:21:58 AM PDT by goresalooza (Nurses Rock!)
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To: freedom44

Why don't all of these America-hating former Rat administration officials just shut the heck up!!! Every time they open their traitorous mouths we are reminded of how their ineptitude and corruption led us to 9/11.


4 posted on 05/14/2006 11:23:48 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Never trust Democrats with national security.)
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To: freedom44

A few observations.

1. HAMAS is on our official list of terrorist groups. Just because they manage to get themselves elected, we have to make nice with them and even send them US taxpayer money??? Zbig obviously has no clear understanding of the ultimate goals of the Jihadists. Does he really think HAMAS just wants to have a Palestinian homeland? Or even that HAMAS just wants to eliminate Israel? Does he even know what a caliphate is?

2. What does Zbig suggest we do with Iran? I hear criticism of the idea of using force or threatening to use force. Does Zbig think we should allow Iran to get nukes? I don't. I think the ultimate nightmare scenario is Iran with nukes. Worse than anything Zbig describes. Iran armed with nukes will have an umbrella under which to expand its terrorist campaigns and spread the Islamic revolution.

3. Zbig is a big wig at CSIS, the Center for Strategic and International Studies. They have received extensive funding from the Sauds and Zbig has been on their payroll from time to time. I wonder if he is more interested in US interests or his clients?


5 posted on 05/14/2006 11:24:18 AM PDT by LSUfan
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To: freedom44

It's pretty obvious that Liberal DemocRATS hate President Bush. We all know that. I don't think it's necessary for their toadies in the Liberal MSM to do a story on EVERY ONE OF THEM. Geeeesh!


6 posted on 05/14/2006 12:16:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Remember the Alamo!)
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To: LSUfan

Zbig is zee fool! This pompous a$$ got us into the Iranian hostage situation long ago. The only thing this country owes him is thanks for being the catalyst behind Jimmy Carter's resounding defeat in his re-election bid. If it hadn't been for Zbig zee fool, Jimmy might have had a chance. He continues to amaze me with his profound stupidity. Doesn't his daughter work for one of the networks too? Tell me there is no bias in the MSM.


7 posted on 05/14/2006 12:24:15 PM PDT by geezerwheezer (get up boys, we're burnin' daylight!!!)
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To: freedom44

You love me, you really love me!


8 posted on 05/14/2006 12:41:02 PM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (Buy 'Allah' brand urinal cakes - If you can't kill the enemy at least you can piss on their god)
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To: geezerwheezer
Amazing, and Zbig was considered the HAWK in the Carter Administration.
9 posted on 05/14/2006 1:00:32 PM PDT by GeorgefromGeorgia
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To: freedom44
Sure, Brzezinski, and you weep nights over the Israelis taking out Saddam's nuclear weapon facility in the 1980's.

You, Brzezinski, and your patron Jimmy Carter are living, shining examples of why we can never again allow the national security of this nation to be again in the hands of the Democrats.

10 posted on 05/14/2006 1:52:26 PM PDT by mtntop3
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To: Pan_Yans Wife; fat city; freedom44; Tamsey; Grampa Dave; PhiKapMom; Hinoki Cypress; ...
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11 posted on 05/14/2006 8:09:23 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: freedom44

He's mad about the defeat of his stupid strategy that led to a mess in the Balkans. His book "The Grand Chessboard" had a big influence on the Clinton cabal. He argued for a strategy of expanding NATO and the European Union as a means of maintaining and extending US "primacy" throughout the Eurasian continent. But Dubya's doctrine of unilateral preventive war and his administration's efforts to split the EU between "new" and "old" Europe have left this policy in tatters.

No suprise therefore that Brzezinski is sething as his policy are left in tatters. Well the Socialist Worker Party approves..that shoud be some consolation to this second rate schemer.


12 posted on 05/14/2006 8:38:28 PM PDT by eleni121 ('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
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To: DoctorZIn
Brzezinski, one of the leading architects of allowing the Shah to fall to Islamic madmen, has a lot of nerve even uttering a sound regarding the various, dangerous, geostrategic threats created by the Carter crowd on a global basis.
13 posted on 05/14/2006 10:53:43 PM PDT by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free)
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To: eleni121

I aqgree with you about this guy. His foreign policy views have been a disaster and he is in the same league as Madeline Albright who is one of his mentors.


14 posted on 05/15/2006 5:52:40 AM PDT by oilfieldtrash
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To: freedom44
To read today’s thread click here.

Join Us At Today's Iranian Alert Thread – The Most Underreported Story Of The Year!

"If you want on or off this Iran ping list, Freepmail DoctorZin”

15 posted on 05/15/2006 7:12:32 PM PDT by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: oilfieldtrash
I aqgree with you about this guy. His foreign policy views have been a disaster and he is in the same league as Madeline Albright who is one of his mentors.

Correction: he was one of her mentors. He is 10 years older.

16 posted on 06/01/2006 3:20:45 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Got freedom? Thank a veteran)
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