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Howell Raines Lets Fly His Hatred for Fox News
TimesWatch.org ^ | 6/22/06 | Clay Waters

Posted on 06/22/2006 10:14:40 AM PDT by NJRighty

The always modest, always charming Howell Raines, executive editor of the New York Times, has a new autobiography out, “The One that Got Away,” a sequel to his 1993 memoir “Fly Fishing Through the Midlife Crisis.”

Dipping into his latest book on his love of fly fishing, we find Raines still rising to the conservative-bashing bait.

On page 189, he lets fly with thoughts about liberal bugbear Fox News: “Fox, by its mere existence, undercuts the argument that the public is starved for ‘fair’ news, and not just because Fox shills for the Republican Party and panders to the latest of America’s periodic religious manias. The key to understanding Fox News is to grasp the anomalous fact that its consumers know its ‘news’ is made up. It matters not when critics point this out to Foxite consumers because they’ve understood it from the outset. That’s why they’re there. Its chief fictioneer, Roger Ailes, had been making up news in plain sight for a half century.”

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I guess we should defer to Howell on this since he is an expert on making up news.
1 posted on 06/22/2006 10:14:42 AM PDT by NJRighty
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To: NJRighty
Tee Hee.
2 posted on 06/22/2006 10:15:05 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: NJRighty

Getting his panties pulled up his back side, huh?


3 posted on 06/22/2006 10:17:05 AM PDT by b4its2late (Eye souport publik edekashun two.)
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To: NJRighty
Howell says, "Its' chief fictioneer, Roger Ailes, had been making up news in plain sight for a half century.”


4 posted on 06/22/2006 10:17:40 AM PDT by new yorker 77 (FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!)
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To: NJRighty
not just because Fox shills for the Republican Party

Name me one fake story designed to smear non-Republicans that Fox has run with.

Now, CBS and the NYT...

5 posted on 06/22/2006 10:17:45 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies must follow approved guidelines or you will be kill-filed without appeal.)
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To: NJRighty

"his love of fly fishing..."





Has PETA been made aware of this?


6 posted on 06/22/2006 10:17:56 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: NJRighty
Delighted to see Howell Raines suffer. Keep up the good work Fox.
7 posted on 06/22/2006 10:18:34 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: NJRighty
Once again the left sits in their denial. If the news is not 100% Bush, Republican, Conservative bashing it's not news, it's shilling to the Right. The fact that any conservatives get to air their opinions is just wrong according to these people. That both sides of the issue get discussed is wrong. That Bob, Beckel, Alan Comes, Juan Williams, Ellis Heniken, EJ Dionne and any other liberal has to debate the merits of their point is wrong.

Screw you, Raines.
8 posted on 06/22/2006 10:18:43 AM PDT by misterrob
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To: atomicpossum

The fact that he attacks FoxNews, claiming that they shill for the GOP, just proves the point we've been making for decades: He and the rest of the liberal media are carrying water for the Democrats.


9 posted on 06/22/2006 10:20:01 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: NJRighty
I suppose it's hard to write with your panties bunched up like that.

"All the news that's fit to Spin".

10 posted on 06/22/2006 10:20:37 AM PDT by Pompah
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To: NJRighty
Howell Raines shows what a pos Southerners become when they are liberals. Raines is truly the Jimmy Carter of journalism.
11 posted on 06/22/2006 10:20:37 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: Brilliant
"his love of fly fishing..."

I think it's the "other" kind of fly....with a zipper on it.

12 posted on 06/22/2006 10:20:51 AM PDT by capt. norm (W.C. Fields: "The time has come to take the bull by the tail and face the situation".)
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To: NJRighty
Pure hatred and pea green jealousy oozes out of Raines, because the success of FOXNews signaled the beginning of the end of The New York Times. But Raines is just plain stupid for writing the following:

"chief fictioneer, Roger Ailes, had been making up news in plain sight for a half century.”

Ailes' bio includes:
President of CNBC; 1991-1996
President of NBC's America's Talking, 1993-1996

Or maybe Raines thinks NBC deals in fiction too.

13 posted on 06/22/2006 10:22:06 AM PDT by YaYa123
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To: NJRighty

Who the heck would spend their precious money and time reading not one, but two autobiographies from such an insignificant pipsqueak?


14 posted on 06/22/2006 10:22:09 AM PDT by jpl (Victorious warriors win first, then go to war; defeated warriors go to war first, then seek to win.)
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To: NJRighty

Howell Raines, fired from the NYT for letting a reporter make up news, vents against Fox for 'making up news'. Clearly he has no sense of irony or humor.... or honor!


15 posted on 06/22/2006 10:24:18 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Brilliant
"his love of fly fishing..."

I had heard that the NYT had a lot of homosexuals on its staff but, "fly fishing," that is a new one.

16 posted on 06/22/2006 10:27:47 AM PDT by N. Theknow (Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.)
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To: NJRighty
All Fox does is give a chance for some articulate conservative spokespeople to comment and be heard. It just gives the conservative point of view along with the liberal point of view.

This fact alone seems to drive liberals batty.

Even as a kid watching news tv in the 1970s, it was clear to me that the dominant media would seldom, if ever, give mainstream conservatives a chance to talk. Often a panel would have a liberal host, 3 liberal guests (usually with law degrees and often smirking), and 1 conservative (a middle aged man, crew cut, glasses, and easily befuddled). The conservative invariably looked very bad, and they did this for decades.

Now a news outlet like Fox gives conservatives a real point of view on tv. That's all. If this is too much for liberals, it speaks volumes for them.

I have to admit, Fox has decent conservative and liberal points of view, but they do cart out some liberal mental midgets now and then.

Kirsten Powers, a 'democratic strategist,' shows up on several of their programs and offers a pretty face combined with an empty stare. She is, like, you know, inarticulate, and, like, so are you saying, like, a very poor spokeswoman for her cause. Personally, I can't help but think the fact that she keeps showing up on Fox is that 1. she is easy on the eyes, and 2. she makes democrats/liberals look very bad.
17 posted on 06/22/2006 10:29:03 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("5 Minute Penalty for #40, Ann Theresa Calvello!" - RIP 1929-2006)
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To: Rummyfan

To paraphrase Don Corleone: "Raines is a pimp."


18 posted on 06/22/2006 10:29:51 AM PDT by RexBeach ("There is no substitute for victory." -Douglas MacArthur)
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To: NJRighty

What's the frequency, Howie?


19 posted on 06/22/2006 10:31:58 AM PDT by GBA
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20 posted on 06/22/2006 10:34:10 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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