Drugs or more drugs?
Exposure to THC in adolescence makes rats hungrier for heroin, which they access by pushing a lever.
Rats taking cannabis get taste for heroin news@nature.com's version
Posted on 07/08/2006 2:48:58 AM PDT by neverdem
Uh huh...And Global Warming will kill us all. Yawn.
I wonder what those numbers would be if "nicotine cigarettes" were substituted for "weed".
99.783 % of heroin users were once users of caffeine
LOL
At that point it kind of turned me. It's not about health, public safety or the children. It's about control, pure and simple. Besides, you can't promote a socialist health care scheme where millions are going to die as a result of neglect and corruption if you've got all that dangerous second hand smoke or evil trans fatty acids on the loose.
I'm no longer convinced the war on drugs is valid or justified. The biggest reason is that you just can't kill the demand, there are simply going to be addicts of some thing or another no matter what. OTOH, there may be free market methods to encourage control. I'd love to see more emphasis placed on that.
Still, when people talk about things like crack and crystal meth, well, at that point I have to give up my arguement. I can't think of a valid reason to permit the existence or use of such drugs. There are some things we can't resolve through our type of enforcement unless we take exceptionally harsh measures, and maybe we should consider brutal tactics for scpecial cases. Again, it dimishes my argument, but I can't possibly defend my point in this area. I'm not going to start a big flame war, but I've just lost faith in how the WOD is being handled and it's direction. We may think it's helping us now, but I can see it expanding rapidly out of control under a liberal administration and being used as an alternate method to subvert and destroy individual freedoms under the likes of a person like Hillary or worse.
I don't have a viable alternative, sadly. Just the same suggestion: Drive all socialists on our soil into the seas, and we will be amazed at how quickly our problems go away.
Why don't they do simple (and cheap) statistical research on what percentage of one-time pot users become serious consumers of heroin? Is it because 'scientific' research which results in no anti-drug message also results in no more research grants? Or am I just naive?
The people who are naive are those who fall for such "research".
'Acid-flacid babies' anyone? How about those carcinogenic cyclamates? And the radon, oh the radon! Right now I am in the process of insulating my home from the devastating effects of acid rain...
What do you say we see how other common things (alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, sugar, chocolate) fare under the same experimental conditions, before we decide what to do about pot? Do any of them lead to increased self-dosing of heroin, and if so, what should we do about them?
I don't know; I know a lot of potheads who never progressed to heroin. BTW, earning a paycheck by getting rats stoned must be a real hoot.
I can go you one better, LOL. 100 % of heroin users once drank milk.
That joke being out of the way, I know people who have used marijuana medicinally (MS patients) and they didn't "go on" to heroin, they, in fact, didn't go on to oxycontin, or percocet, or vicodin.
The marijuana controlled their pain and spasticity, so they used less drugs, not more.
You seem to be saying that human behavior cannot be predicted by rat behavior. Scientific heresy!
I would rather smoke a God made plant any day then be hooked on Oxycontin like the almighty Rushbo. Oh I forgot he had a bad back so he's forgiven.
I'm going back to digging my bomb shelter. :-)
You seem to be saying that human behavior cannot be predicted by rat behavior. Scientific heresy!
So - if a rat is born in in a free state paid hospital, raised on food stamps and subsidized housing - the rat will probably seek handouts the rest of it's life? We could learn how to repair our federal and state budgets from rats!
I don't know; I know a lot of potheads who never progressed to heroin. BTW, earning a paycheck by getting rats stoned must be a real hoot.
3/4 of a joint for a baby rat?
The equivalent dose for a 170 lb. human would be - 2,000 joints with the estimated weight of the rat at one ounce!
Science - my @$$!
I'm not too worried...they only studied Democrats.
So where are the heroin addicts? Many millions of people use marijuana every year, why didn't they go on to heroin?
Lock me in a box and let me know that pressing the lever will make me feel good, and I'm guessing I'll press the lever.
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