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A Painful Sentence: The Problem With Pain Medications
CBS 4 ^ | July 6, 2006 | Jennifer Santiago

Posted on 07/08/2006 11:27:44 AM PDT by JTN

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To: JTN
I was outraged when Dateline featured the Richard Paey story and had hoped the exposure would embarrass the authorities in Florida. Obviously it fell on deaf ears.

Apparently they're oblivious to what the law is as this poor woman could have been charged with a misdemeanor, so says Kendel Coffey.

61 posted on 07/08/2006 5:25:37 PM PDT by StarFan
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To: ccmay; JTN
If ever there was an example of yellow journalism whipping up public hysteria, the Drug War is it, and these rubes have fallen for it, hook, line and sinker.

The Drive By Media shoots from both sides of the car. Here are a few DBM myths in the WOD:

1. Singapore is winning their WOD, while the Dutch experiment has been a disaster.

Fact is, Singapore had a much higher rate of heroin addiction than the Netherlands, according to the last update I could find from the US State Dept:

--http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1651454/posts?page=64#64

2. We may not like Islamic law, but at least they know how to deal with drug addiction.

Iran is faring even worse than Singapore's failed experiment:

--http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1651454/posts?page=76#76

3. Drug addiction was rampant in the US before we embarked on our experiment with prohibition in the early 1900s.

According to the US government, it's gotten worse (my comments bracketed):

"By 1900, about one American in 200 was either a cocaine or opium addict." [That's 0.5%, for those in Rio Linda]

--http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/demand/speakout/06so.htm

100 years later--

"There were an estimated 980,000 hardcore heroin addicts in the United States in 1999, 50 percent more than the estimated 630,000 hardcore addicts in 1992." [980,000 is about 0.34% of the population]

--www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs07/794/heroin.htm

"The demand for both powdered and crack cocaine in the United States is high. Among those using cocaine in the United States during 2000, 3.6 million were hardcore users who spent more than $36 billion on the drug in that year."

--http://www.usdoj.gov/ndic/pubs07/794/cocaine.htm

Let's help the WOD's case here and say that every one of the heroin addicts is also a cocaine addict; so the number addicted to either cocaine or heroin is 3.6 million. IOW, were throwing out nearly a million from our total. That still works out to about a 1.2% addiction in 2000 rate vs the 0.5% in 1900.

62 posted on 07/08/2006 6:09:18 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Ken H

last sentence should read-- "That still works out to about a 1.2% addiction rate in 2000 vs the 0.5% rate in 1900."


63 posted on 07/08/2006 6:16:42 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: tutstar

ping...


64 posted on 07/08/2006 6:18:23 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist ping list-freepmail to get on or off)
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To: no dems

actually, since "too many" people were able to get not guilty verdicts because of the intent part of crime.

The politicians removed intent from the crime by making the QUANTITY the crime. Thus if you have too many pills on your person the jury is instructed to PRESUME intent to deliver.

Also, FYI TO ALL, a jury nulification instruction is forbidden. Thus unless there is an educuated jurror nobody ever learns about jury nulification being legal.


65 posted on 07/08/2006 6:48:30 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Hildy

We've got to stop these terrible drug-pushing doctors...(sarc)...scare 'em good with a few "examples" so that they fear for their freedom if a patient wants pain meds...


66 posted on 07/08/2006 6:50:32 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Hildy
I too deal with chronic pain. I was rear ended in two auto accidents about two years apart. In the first accident I received a T9 compression fracture and 3 bulging disk. The second accident was by one of the smaller city busses; it exacerbated my bulging disk and gave me an additional bulge.

As for what is wrong with the system. It’s not about putting criminals away. It’s about winning as many cases as a prosecutor can, so one can to climb the ladder. It is only about power, because the only power the government has is to make its citizens criminals. More criminals means more cops, prosecutors, judges, jails, guards, and taxes; which are increased by the same politicians that claim their getting the drug dealers off the streets. The war on drugs is a failure just like the social security system; the problem is there is too much power and money in both to have an honest debate about changing them.

67 posted on 07/09/2006 8:03:01 PM PDT by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE BLUE PIMPLE IN A SEA OF RED!)
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To: Total Package

Right on every point.


68 posted on 07/09/2006 8:09:26 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: Total Package
Off and on for 20 years I've been dealing with mind-numbing pain along with a host of additional (weird) symptoms. Just three weeks ago my current neurologist has finally figured out why. It seems that my body has decided that my peripheral nerves must die. It took loosing full function of my legs and a great deal of my reflexes before anyone would take me seriously.

How did I deal with the pain in the mean-time? Well, I had my own special cocktail that helped just enough that I could get through the day. One shot of Nyquil, 800mg of Motrin, two or three sleeping pills and a shot of vodka along with ice packs. It's a wonder that I didn't kill myself.

My mother appears to have the same problem that I do. What sucks is that *her* cocktail was heavy in Tylenol and she new has a fried liver.

I wonder how many people die from over the counter OD's. How many people die because they can't get safe, effective pain relief?

69 posted on 07/10/2006 12:55:57 PM PDT by Marie (Support the Troops. Slap a hippy.)
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To: Marie
Is your nerve damage caused by an autoimmune disease attaching the myelin sheaths or hypertension related to diabetes? Or am I completely out in left field.

Tylenol will burn up a liver very quickly it has a max dose of 4 grams a day or 8 extra strength pills. The Motrin damages the kidneys in high doses. Alcohol well stomach, liver, kidneys, pancreas etc.

As for me today was a 7.5/200mg Vicodin/Motrin, then later one 50mg Tramadol, and later in the day another 7.5 Vic/Mot. Maybe in another two years I’ll get a settlement from the transit authority for my injuries and what ever it is it won’t be worth it.

70 posted on 07/10/2006 9:27:27 PM PDT by Total Package (TOLEDO, OHIO THE BLUE PIMPLE IN A SEA OF RED!)
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