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Pyongyang's missiles right on target
Asia Times Online ^ | Jul 11, 2006 | Donald Kirk

Posted on 07/10/2006 9:04:55 PM PDT by sageb1

Pyongyang's missiles right on target By Donald Kirk

LONDON - The search for a face-saving way out of the latest version of the Korean missile crisis leaves the United States with fast-diminishing options and risky alternatives.

Go along with one-on-one talks, as demanded by North Korea and advocated by The New York Times and voices from the Bill Clinton administration, and the US plunges into lengthy, fitful palaver that has little chance of going anywhere.

Hold fast for a call for sanctions by the United Nations, and the US may go through the embarrassment of vetoes by China and Russia - and little if any real support from its "ally", South Korea.

(Excerpt) Read more at atimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: geopolitics; northkorea; proliferation
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1 posted on 07/10/2006 9:04:56 PM PDT by sageb1
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To: sageb1
Every ICBM they launch should be shot down. Forget the short range SCUDS. If we hit the ICBM, we say nothing. If we miss, we take out the next one, and any thereafter, on the launch pads.
2 posted on 07/10/2006 9:11:37 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Liberalism's main product is Destruction and Death.)
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To: sageb1
The search for a face-saving way out of the latest version of the Korean missile crisis leaves the United States with fast-diminishing options and risky alternatives.

A glass northern parking lot for South Korea?
3 posted on 07/10/2006 9:13:09 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

You think we can? I'd like to hope so, but we seem to be getting mixed signals from the talking heads.


4 posted on 07/10/2006 9:14:57 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham

I think I heard that we have 11 and we could do 5 or 6 from Col. David Hunt today.


5 posted on 07/10/2006 9:16:40 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

The UN is a waste of time.

The last time the U.N. did anything productive was the Korean War. And that ended in a stalemate and is still a problem for them.

50 years.


6 posted on 07/10/2006 9:17:49 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: sageb1

I'm quite confident that we can take out any long range missile that is headed in our general direction AND manages to get out of the atmosphere. I don't think we have a reliable boost-phase antimissile capability.


7 posted on 07/10/2006 9:17:53 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: sageb1

This is a defining moment for South Korea. If they fail to stand firmly with us we should immediately withdraw all US military personnel from South Korea. The last time we hinted at that they sh*t themselves.


8 posted on 07/10/2006 9:18:25 PM PDT by Natural Law
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To: sageb1
China and Russia think they are advancing a pawn against the US.

They forgot about the rook: Japan.

I have never heard anything like the language coming out of the Japanese Foreign Ministry the past week, and I doubt anyone else has since before 1945.

9 posted on 07/10/2006 9:18:36 PM PDT by pierrem15
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The last time the U.N. did anything productive was the Korean War. And that ended in a stalemate and is still a problem for them.

Well, according to the second statement it looks like that the UN is "0-fer its existence".

10 posted on 07/10/2006 9:20:37 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (No.... wire .... hangers!)
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To: sageb1
Pyongyang's missiles right on target

The headline is metaphorical, referring to a political target rather than a physical target. In fact, most of their missiles landed outside of the triangular cordon area which was the intended target. Their accuracy is very poor.

11 posted on 07/10/2006 9:20:41 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: Jet Jaguar
"The UN is a waste of time. "

No doubt about that. Not only do I not trust them, they are working against us with absolutely no shame.

12 posted on 07/10/2006 9:21:01 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: sageb1

At this point, the answer is "maybe". But those in the know aren't going to be saying so just yet. How long was it between the first Stealth Bomber scuttle and the final announcement that we had them and they worked REAL well?


13 posted on 07/10/2006 9:25:22 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Liberalism's main product is Destruction and Death.)
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"How long was it between the first Stealth Bomber scuttle and the final announcement that we had them and they worked REAL well?"

True.

14 posted on 07/10/2006 9:28:58 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: ArrogantBustard

The geometry doesn't let us intercept missiles on the way up. Missiles on the way down that land far away from the defense missile launch site.

For example, missile sites in Alaska and California don't help much against missiles launched at Pago Pago.


15 posted on 07/10/2006 9:34:07 PM PDT by donmeaker (If the sky don't say "Surrender Dorothy" then my ex wife is out of town.)
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To: sageb1

I think it's high time we pull our troops from S Korea whatever the outcome of these threats, talks, negotiations. We can tell S. Korea that we will not allow one million N. Koreas to over run them but we are not going to allow 37k US troops be held hostage over this bs. Once our troops are out, a big deterrent on our part has been removed. S. Korea can start squawking about it to the international community in a way they never have with our troops in harms way.


16 posted on 07/10/2006 9:41:17 PM PDT by Edison (I don't know what irks me more, whether they lied or the incompetence.)
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"but we are not going to allow 37k US troops be held hostage over this bs"

I have a cousin there. USAF.

17 posted on 07/10/2006 9:51:55 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: pierrem15

Amen to that. That speech was just amazing.


18 posted on 07/10/2006 10:00:21 PM PDT by Mama25 (The only chaps a girl can trust are those she wears)
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To: Edison

"Once our troops are out, a big deterrent on our part has been removed."

Actually, removing our troops would free our hands in dealing with South Korea. The reason we can't consider hitting the PDRK now is the fear that they will destroy Seoul immediately. If the South Koreans kick us out over this issue, we can do what we want without worrying about the blow back to our former "ally."

A rearming Japan will cause fear not just in Pyongyang and Beijing, but Seoul and Moscow too. If those dopes refuse to back us over this issue, we can simply help Tokyo rearm, threaten Pyongyang with nuclear Armageddon, and sit back and watch the Chinese, Russkies and ROCs try to deal with the situation on their own.


19 posted on 07/10/2006 10:15:36 PM PDT by happyathome
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To: donmeaker
The geometry doesn't let us intercept missiles on the way up.

A beam weapon on a secret payload in outer space could do it with a meter mirror and reflected sunlight. And you could test it a million times without anyone knowing.

20 posted on 07/10/2006 10:32:18 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - IT'S ISLAM, STUPID! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth)
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