Largest Methamphetamine bust in US history took place in North Georgia.

WSB Radio | 8-30-06 | Arcy

[Rb ver. 2.0]

Evil stuff.

[Arcy]

National Parks have become a favorite growing area for POT in the last few years. Because it's not on personal property, there's no risk to the growers personal assets. Also, because the growing of the pot is taking place in a Nat'l park, it's harder to prove that the person cultivating it is more than just a visitor to the park.

[dennisw]

By: Associated Press

ATLANTA -- Federal officials have made a "record-breaking seizure" of crystal methamphetamine buried in the back yard of a rural home that they say was used by a Mexican-based drug ring.

Drug Enforcement Administration agents found 187.5 pounds of suspected meth and about 90 pounds of suspected cocaine during a search last week, said DEA special agent Sherri Strange said Monday.

She called it the third largest meth seizure in the U.S. this year, with an estimated street value of $25 million to $50 million.


Agents charged four men -- two of them residents of Mexico -- with possession with intent to distribute methamphetamine and cocaine. All four were captured during the raid at the home in Buford, 33 miles northeast of Atlanta.

Officials said the operation was part of a Mexican drug ring that distributes large quantities of meth and cocaine from Mexico by moving it through California and Texas to points throughout the U.S.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Bill Thomas said the seizure "underscores the increasing significance that Atlanta plays in the world of drug trafficking."

[verity]

Saw a medical stat the other day that only 6% of meth users who try to rehab are successful.

That IS scary.

[tfecw]

"Saw a medical stat the other day that only 6% of meth users who try to rehab are successful."

did you get a timeline for that stat? Any addiction has about the same success rate (smoking, coffee, coke, etc). A fun trick rehab centers like to toss out there is that 'we get a 80 percent success rate' and neglect to tell folks that the that success rate was for a small amount of time such as a week or 2.

[Vaquero]

[Rb ver. 2.0]

I read that same stat at the end of a Learning Channel show that was on yesterday.

[mugs99]

But I tought there was no connection between pot and other addicting drugs...
There isn't...That's what happens when you put potheads in charge of your meth. If speed freaks had been in charge there would have been no pot growing outside.
Potheads don't use meth and speed freaks don't use pot. Pot brings meth users down. Meth kills the pot high.

Meth abusers are alcoholics. Meth allows boozers to stay awake and drink more booze, and that's why meth abuse is such a big problem...wide awake drunks!
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[Arcy]

Do you know where your Child day laborer is?

[Rogle]

Rehab of meth users is in deed very difficult because of what it does to the pleasure centers of the brain. Rehab of meth users usually takes about 90 day of in patient care initially and about 3 years to complete.

[Arcy]

How did you get to be such an expert on the profile of drug users?

[Rb ver. 2.0]

"Any addiction has about the same success rate"

I beg to differ. There's plenty of recovering alcoholics and reformed nicotine junkies. I've never met a recovered meth addict and only know 2 recovered crack addicts from the scores I've met.

[tfecw]

"I beg to differ. There's plenty of recovering alcoholics and reformed nicotine junkies. I've never met a recovered meth addict and only know 2 recovered crack addicts from the scores I've met."

Cool personal experience.

You could make an argument (one i can agree with by the way) that meth addicts are less likely to recover because they probably wouldn't be doing meth if the things that normally bring people out of addictions mattered to them in the first place. Things like family, jobs, self discipline, etc. If you want to contend that meth is somehow more addicting than booze, ciggs, H, or coke, then that's where we'll have to part ways in agreement.

[dirtboy]

I know one recovered meth user. And she says no way in hell that stuff should ever be legal.

[The Toll]

To be honest that is what is really bad about this drug. Lets be honest people dabble, it happens. Nothing in the world is ever going to stop that. I just think your average run of the mill weekender has not yet been informed about how quick this stuff will get you.
The pattern that I have seen usually involves couples that "party" regularly. One night there is nothing else around and meth enters the mix due to availability. The girls get hooked that night and the guy winds up running out to fetch the stuff for months until he falls to it as well. It is very quick. Once the meth addiction is established people will quickly substitute crack if it can not be located. Then they're living at some crack hotel by the end of the month.

[vetvetdoug]

There is a local veterinarian in my town that is hooked on it and has been for a good while. He was selling lots of things that he shouldn't over the counter and finally after several years, the DEA moved on him. He's lost his license and has been sent to rehabilitation. Because he's socially connected and related to many in this town his extracurricular activities have been omitted by the local press and covered up quite well so far. He's the second veterinarian and one of many "professionals" in this small town of 12K population that has been caught up with Meth and other illicit drugs.

[mugs99]

How did you get to be such an expert on the profile of drug users?

I'm not an expert, but my wife is a retired RN who worked rehab for many years.
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[GovernmentShrinker]

This is why the laws restricting sale of over-the-counter pseudoephedrine-containing products won't do any good at all. I'd happily comply if it would help, but it doesn't, so I am unhappily being forced to comply. Most pseudoephedrine used in meth production was already being purchased in bulk outside the US, not obtained by buying little blister packs of Sudafed at drugstores.

[Prodn2000]

I saw that same show too. I felt so bad for the family in Iowa. The mother smokes and street races, and the father is in denial about his problem. I just felt so bad for those people on the show. Meth is a 95% caucasian-used drug. It is going to ruin the heartland if someone doesn't do something.

[Prodn2000]

I know people that were so hooked on Ephedra-based diet drugs that they started taking a certain asthma medication because it had the active ingredient in it.