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2002 Document: Request for Precursor That Can Be Used To Make VX Nerve Gas (Translation)
Pentagon/FMSO website for Iraq Pre-war documents ^ | September 5 2006 | jveritas

Posted on 09/05/2006 11:49:36 AM PDT by jveritas

Document ISGQ-2005-00023243 is dated September 19 2002 and it is letter from the Chairman of the Chemistry department in the Iraqi Atomic Energy Organization where he is asking to provide him some Chemical Materials that can be used as Precursors for making Chemical Weapons mainly the Phosphorus Pentasulfide that can be used as a main Precursor to make VX Nerve Gas the deadliest of all Chemical Weapons. Other materials on the list like Phosphorus oxychloride, Thiophosphoryl Chloride and Thionyl Chloride that can also be used to make Chemical Gas weapons. All these materials are called the “dual use” where it can be used for some non military purposes but it can be used as main Precusrors to make Chemical weapons. These materials fall under the LIST A of the UN resolutions where Iraq is allowed to import under very strict rules but not to manufacture it.

The important material here the large quantity of Phosphorus Pentasulfide a main Precursor for VX Nerve Gas. In their March 6 2003 report, the UN Iraq weapons inspectors wrote under the VX Gas section that Iraq should “Present any outstanding quantities of Phosphorus Trichloride and Phorsphorus Pentasulfide, or provide credible evidence that all quantity imported have been consumed, destroyed or spoiled”, http://www.un.org/depts/unmovic/documents/6mar.pdf#search=%22UNMOVIC%20report%20on%20March%206%202003%22 (page 85 on UN pdf document).

The translation below include does not include all the materials on the list but shows only the material that are “dual use” and that can be used as Precursors to make Chemical Weapons.

Beginning of the translation of ISGQ-2005-00023243

In the name of God the most Merciful the most compassionate

The Republic of Iraq

The Atomic Energy Organization

The Chairmanship of the Chemistry and Materials and Department

Date: 19/9/2002

Secret

To the Respected Brother Dr. Abdel Satar Al Taa’i.

Subject: List of the primary materials.

In regards to the phone conversation, the local material from the list sent according to our letter 215 on 9/11 were brought back so please replace with the attached list.

With regards

Signature

Dr. Hisham Mahmod Ahmad

Chairman of The Chemistry and Materials department.

Secret.

3. Material: Thionyl Chloride, Description: GPR. Quantity: 1 KG.

10. Material: Phosphorus Oxycholride: Description: GPR. Quantity: 3.5 Liter

30. Material:Thiophosphoryl Chloride. Description: 97%. Quantity: 1 Liter.

42. Phosphorus Pentasulfide. Description: 99%. Quantity: 5,500 KG.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bcw; chemicals; iraq; iraqiintelligence; jveritas; nervegas; phosphorous; precursors; prewardocs; vx; wmd
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1 posted on 09/05/2006 11:49:39 AM PDT by jveritas
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To: eyespysomething

Here you go.


2 posted on 09/05/2006 11:50:22 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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Hmmmm... 5,500 KG.

Iraq would have to have reported importing that much Phosphorus Pentasulfide. This would be reported to the people handling the oil-for-food program. I wonder if they have a record of 5,500 KGs or more of Phosphorus Pentasulfide?

And we all know how "legit" the oil-for-food program was run!

3 posted on 09/05/2006 11:56:16 AM PDT by avacado
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Oooo, jveritas - back on a roll!! I love it!! ;-)

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4 posted on 09/05/2006 11:57:25 AM PDT by eyespysomething
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I hope you are able to keep all the translations in a nice tidy file. They, collectively, will be very valuable for our side.


5 posted on 09/05/2006 11:57:38 AM PDT by pissant
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To: jveritas; All

Is there any documentation that's emerged from Saddam's intelligence files documenting his 1993 non-aggression pact with Al Qaeda and Bin Laden? I keep pointing out this non-aggression pact as evidence against the liberal-left's mistaken idea that "Saddam and Bin Laden loathed one another." If there was some evidence of it from Saddam's own files, that could be compelling.


6 posted on 09/05/2006 12:00:46 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: pissant

I have been keeping them in a file so far. I use them "liberally."


7 posted on 09/05/2006 12:01:42 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: eyespysomething

Operation Iraqi Freedom Documents


Has the link you posted labelled as shown above been moved elsewhere? It seems not to be operable at the moment.


8 posted on 09/05/2006 12:02:55 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: MikeA

Good for you. Are you just keeping jveritas's translations or are you collecting more than that?


9 posted on 09/05/2006 12:03:39 PM PDT by pissant
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To: jveritas

My only concern is that many of these chemicals have legitimate roles in organic synthesis. It is indeed suspicious that multi-ton orders were arranged, and no mention of alternative uses wsa given. It would be interesting to see if what they claim these materials were intended for actually make sense from a chemistry perspective. They certainly could not be used in the Baby Milk Factory (tm).


10 posted on 09/05/2006 12:06:15 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: MikeA

Thanks, I've fixed it.

I don't know when it changed?


11 posted on 09/05/2006 12:06:19 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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Awesome work, jveritas.

Precursor chemicals, and we know that the Iraqis had the recipe to make the finished VX nerve gas.

I'd say that 5500 kilos is more than enough to provide terrorists with small quantities.

I'm puzzled by the note, though. I appears first that the communication is actually a second note.

In regards to the phone conversation, the local material from the list sent according to our letter 215 on 9/11 were brought back so please replace with the attached list.

The first note must have sent "other material." They appear to be saying they got those other materials through "LOCAL" sources. They want another order instead of what they had originally requested.

This appears to verify that there were LOCAL materials available to them.

Since this list is all precursor material, then one can assume that the LOCAL material could also be precursor to WMDs.

If so, that's huge. Do you have access to "215 on 9/11?"

12 posted on 09/05/2006 12:10:03 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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13 posted on 09/05/2006 12:11:25 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: avacado

I also thought about the "5,500 Kg". In the Arabic language the comma in a number plays the role of a decimal point but usually if they mean five and half Kilogram they write as 5,5 Kg (5.5 Kg for us) and not 5,500 Kg as written in this document. I think here the 5,500 Kg means five thousands and five hundred Kilograms which is a huge quantity of Phosphorus Pentasulfide and I doubt very much they were allowed to import such large quantity. Saddam regime claimed that they have destroyed 157 tons of this material after Desert Storm as shown in Dr. Bilal report to the Iraq Survey Group.


14 posted on 09/05/2006 12:13:02 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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bttt


15 posted on 09/05/2006 12:17:24 PM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: pissant

Collecting more than that, the various articles that have been published on the translations, etc. I had a decent sized filed of articles on the Saddam-Al Qaeda connections before that. If you ever would like any of it, provide an e-mail address and I'll be glad to forward what I have. Just be aware it's quite extensive.


16 posted on 09/05/2006 12:17:47 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: eyespysomething

It looks like the link still doesn't work, or do I need a fresh link?


17 posted on 09/05/2006 12:18:52 PM PDT by MikeA (Not voting out of anger in November is a vote for Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House)
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To: xzins
I hope that I can find this document about the "other materials list" that this letter is tlaking about. I will be looking.

In fact I translated other documents that prove without a shadow of doubt that Iraq was planning producing these prohibited Chemical Weapons precursors. Please read this link below:

Iraqi Documents: Plans To Produce Prohibited Chemical Weapons Precursors http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1657480/posts

18 posted on 09/05/2006 12:19:21 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: MikeA
So far I found and translated this document that talk about Saddam Intelligence service meeting with Bin Laden in Sudan per the authorization of Saddam himself. Please see the link:

Saddam Regime Document: Iraqi Intelligence met with Bin Laden in 1995 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1600579/posts

19 posted on 09/05/2006 12:22:47 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: MikeA

SOrry, I didn't post it in that post, since it can't be edited. I fixed it in my saved ping message/list.

Here's the correct link:

http://70.168.46.200/


20 posted on 09/05/2006 12:23:32 PM PDT by eyespysomething
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