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1 posted on 10/22/2006 1:16:23 PM PDT by ellery
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To: ellery
... They went all up in my pockets ...

Wow!

2 posted on 10/22/2006 1:37:15 PM PDT by relee
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To: elkfersupper

Coming to a traffic stop near you soon.


3 posted on 10/22/2006 1:43:08 PM PDT by razorback-bert (I met Bill Clinton once but he didn’t really talk — he was hitting on my wife)
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To: ellery

I see Vic Mackey's fingerprints on this!


4 posted on 10/22/2006 1:43:55 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: ellery

It would seem that the solution is a law that doesn't allow law enforcement to profit in any way from anything siezed, NOR from things like traffic ticket money. Give them a budget, period. There is just too big of a confict of interest if they can put money into their own dept.
susie


5 posted on 10/22/2006 1:44:54 PM PDT by brytlea (amnesty--an act of clemency by an authority by which pardon is granted esp. to a group of individual)
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To: ellery

When robbed was done by the kings men they were called called highwaymen. What is the modern term for robbery by the police? Using force and guns they are committing armed robbery.



6 posted on 10/22/2006 1:45:34 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT
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To: ellery
That doesn't sound real enforceable...

The police bypass the courts and confiscate money and property on the spot through a department-created form called the "Contraband Forfeiture Agreement." By signing it, a person agrees to relinquish their property to the police and waive any rights they have to try to get it back through the courts.

11 posted on 10/22/2006 2:39:52 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy ("Hello, my name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my father. Prepare to die.")
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To: ellery
The abuse of forfeiture laws is widespread and well documented. What was intended to take illegal profits from drug king-pins has been turned against the common citizen and made into a revenue generator.

Of course, police will protest any suggestion of ending the practice. They've gotten used to their new method of funding, and won't give it up without a court fight.

"Larceny under color of law" would be the appropriate legal phrase.

12 posted on 10/22/2006 2:41:52 PM PDT by etcetera (‘War is permanently established until the Day of the Judgment’. Mohammed)
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To: sit-rep

Check out this sh!t.


13 posted on 10/22/2006 2:50:17 PM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: ellery
Radzilowski defends the practice, saying a person has a right to decide how to dispose of their property.

A right to decide with, literally, a gun to their head. This is nothing less than robbery.

14 posted on 10/22/2006 2:56:09 PM PDT by CGTRWK
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To: ellery

Remember that the dollar amounts are what is REPORTED.

Am I saying that the police are corrupt?

What else can you say when the local police department creates an administrative procedure that is, IMHO, in clear violation of the Constitution of the US and then dares anyone to come and get their money back?

The people or persons who wrote this administrative procedure and who signed off on it must be identified, jailed for civil rights violations, and punished . Any law enforcement officer or officer of the court system who knew of this activity and failed to report it must forfeit their jobs immediately.

Over reaction? Read your histories of Europe, Russia in the later 1910’s and Germany in the early 1930’s where administrative procedures lead to …… and remember there is no biological/mental difference between them and us.


15 posted on 10/22/2006 3:10:38 PM PDT by Nip (SPECTRE - taking out the enemy one terrorist at a time; at night; without warning or mercy)
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To: ellery; Nip; CGTRWK; Larry Lucido; etcetera; Ready4Freddy; Joe Boucher; YOUGOTIT; razorback-bert

I think this case is ripe for a Federal criminal investigation and civil rights suit for violation of rights under color of authority.


16 posted on 10/22/2006 3:34:40 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: ellery
"People involved in crime are more apt to walk away from the money," the chief said. "We're not looking to take money from innocent people. We're only trying to take the make a profit out of the narcotics business."

There. Probably more accurate.

17 posted on 10/22/2006 3:36:25 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: ellery

I'll bet these forfeiture "victims" are all stupid druggies and pushers


19 posted on 10/22/2006 3:49:05 PM PDT by dennisw ("What one man can do, another can do")
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To: ellery
"...Attorneys and constitutional law scholars say they are concerned...

It's about time someone showed some concern over this practice. This should never have been allowed at all, under any circumstances and I still find it hard to believe that the issue hasn't made it to the Supreme Court where it could be stopped.

23 posted on 10/22/2006 4:39:53 PM PDT by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: ellery
Its a form of legalized bribery. Want the cops to drop their charges against you? La Mordida it to them!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

25 posted on 10/22/2006 4:44:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ellery

This is not a new problem. Several years ago the Kansas City Star published a six part series about seizing cash from motorists, in several states. It is chilling in it's scope, running from locals thru counties, states & the feds. When the feds get involved, they split the proceeds with the county/state, forcing the poor sap to spend thousands trying to recover his money in Federal court system.


27 posted on 10/22/2006 7:29:48 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: ellery
This is crap.

The headline of the "article": Bradenton (FL) Police Department bypassing courts in forfeitures

And yet, the seizures cited in the article were reviewed by a judge.

Unless cops have an ironclad case against the person they don't even try to keep the seized funds and/or property.

If you have property that is seized you are given a notice of forfeiture. You then have X-number of days to agree to forfeiting your property or NOT AGREE TO THE FORFEITURE. If you don't agree to it then a hearing is setup BEFORE A JUDGE.

28 posted on 10/22/2006 7:55:32 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (In God we trust. All others we monitor.)
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