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US troops again in Vietnam
Strategy page ^ | Nov 5, 2006 | Strategy page

Posted on 11/05/2006 5:00:49 PM PST by Dawnsblood

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To: Dawnsblood

Fine by me. The Aussies will be helping (I saw dozens of Aussie soldiers/sailors exiting the Saigon Towers office building in full dress when I was there 3 years ago).

And as much as I utterly despise the yokel Communist government, you have to give the Vietnamese people this: from 1954 to 1979++ (one could argue 1991) they waged battle against the French, us Americans, the Khmer Rouge, and the Chinese. More than 25 years of nonstop fighting is nothing to dismiss. They are tough.


61 posted on 11/06/2006 2:19:22 PM PST by angkor
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To: Stonewall Jackson; Dog; ThanhPhero

"it would be nice to have an ally that has a border with China."

It would be nice to have Haiphong Harbor.


62 posted on 11/06/2006 2:21:42 PM PST by angkor
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To: ThanhPhero

thx for the ping


63 posted on 11/06/2006 2:22:55 PM PST by angkor
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To: Dawnsblood

Vietnam did see combat in Cambodia until 1989.


64 posted on 11/06/2006 2:23:47 PM PST by Revenge of Sith
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To: ThanhPhero; lmr
As long as the freedom-loving South Vietnamese and now mostly Vietnamese American are considered just a footnote in history (see "Vietnam and the Presidency Conference Omits Vietnamese Americans", thing will NOT work out for VN. The US government needs to put this footnote into context for any future talk. I just don't know how this will pan out

From ""Journey from the Fall" Director Ham Tran:

"How long will we allow Hollywood to tell their versions about the Vietnam war, where Vietnamese people are faceless, nameless background objects instead of three-dimensional living, breathing people whose lives are directly torn by war? In the last 30 years, the world has never known about the millions of Vietnamese who were imprisoned and tortured in "re-education camps," or the millions of other Vietnamese who fled Vietnam by boat, suffering drought, starvation, rape and pillaging by pirates. No American film has ever been made about these struggles and sacrifices, so the question is "Why not?"
Most young American, especially the younger generation (born between 80s up to now), have NO idea how the Vietnamese got here. Somehow, they happened to be here for no apparent reason!!! It's a sad history.
65 posted on 11/06/2006 3:16:33 PM PST by Toidylop
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To: Toidylop

One of the things I do at my church is tell the kids how their parents got here because the parents don't talk about it. The first American-born generation knows they have family in Viet Nam. Their children are even hazy about that. The ones who know where they come from cope better with the snares of being modern American teenagers.


66 posted on 11/06/2006 3:50:41 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: ThanhPhero

You're a good man. Thanks for doing it.


67 posted on 11/06/2006 3:59:44 PM PST by Toidylop
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To: Toidylop

I checked out the link for Journey from the Fall. Now I must get a DVD or something. Such a movie will never be shown in my part of the country. I emailed the contact address.


68 posted on 11/06/2006 4:12:49 PM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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To: ThanhPhero
You got to watch the movie (I think they already had a distributor, supposed to be out next March). I was lucky enough to watch the movie at the San Diego Asian Film Festival (it's a big theater). The whole audience, I guessed over 2000 movie goers (not all VN) quietly wept during the movie. I noticed two old men (they looked RVN army men to me) sitting next to me broke down... just unreal. You walked out feeling absolutely humbled.
69 posted on 11/06/2006 4:30:05 PM PST by Toidylop
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To: ThanhPhero

problems enough being an American teenager ....

and believe me, from Ireland or VietNam, they are all being brainwashed by others than us, their parents...

best we can do is put our collective 'foots' down and remind them that 'we don't act like that in THIS family'.....


70 posted on 11/06/2006 5:06:17 PM PST by bitt ("And an angel still rides in the whirlwind and directs this storm.")
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To: Toidylop

Thank you for mentioning the film. It shall be, for me, a must see. When it is available on DVD, I shall use it in my class.


71 posted on 11/06/2006 8:27:09 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Army Air Corps
"Thank you for mentioning the film. It shall be, for me, a must see. When it is available on DVD, I shall use it in my class."
Please do. Let me warn you in advance, the movie DOES NOT have a Hollywood type happy ending... It's the reality of war, people get seperated and killed. It's about struggle, family, love and yearning for freedom... It doesn't have "entertainment" value, per se. However, the VN war and the Vietnamese people forever will be part of our history either we like it or not.
72 posted on 11/06/2006 8:55:08 PM PST by Toidylop
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To: rwgal
1. Learn how to spell.

2. The largest segment of the population in Vietnam were NOT EVEN ALIVE when the war happened.

Leave your bigotry in the trailer park, please!

BTW: I have folks in my family who were Vietnam combat vets, and NONE of them show the bitterness that you do.

73 posted on 11/06/2006 8:57:06 PM PST by Clemenza (I have such a raging clue!)
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To: Toidylop

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Thank you for your 'JOURNEY from the FALL' Release update.

Only wish it had been released right after I saw it at its April 30, 2005 West Coast Premiere in Little Saigon CA, commemorating the 30th Anniversary of the Fall of Saigon.

This real life "PASSION of the CHRIST' Motion Picture should have been seen by all Americans before they went out to vote tomorrow.

The Loss of Freedom was real to the South Vietnamese after we ABANDONED them long ago, and so was their resultant suffering.

Thanks to JOHN KERRY =

Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts


Quo Vadis now, Iraq?

Quo Vadis now, USA?

Quo Vadis = "Where go you?" in Latin

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74 posted on 11/06/2006 9:03:19 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: Toidylop

"Let me warn you in advance, the movie DOES NOT have a Hollywood type happy ending... "

No need to tell me. I fully expect this because the people of South Vietnam were shafted. From families being divided, to the reeducation camps, to the plundering of the south by the NVA, etc...'twas all a tragedy.


75 posted on 11/06/2006 9:08:27 PM PST by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Yes Aloha Ronnie... I wish American see this movie before we go out and VOTE tomorrow so that WE WON'T MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE AGAIN... American Lefts just do not know what they're talking about war!!! To them, the VN war ended at the Paris Peace Accords... Millions of Vietnamese, Cambodian and Laotian disappearance became just another footnote of the war. How sad.


76 posted on 11/06/2006 9:19:03 PM PST by Toidylop
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To: All; Toidylop

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It could all happen again HERE, my friend, thanks to the same people who fooled us into ABANDONING the then Free South Vietnamse to Freedom's threatening Enemy long ago.

If we let it.

So Vote tomorrow like your very life depends on it,

..'cause it does..!!!


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77 posted on 11/06/2006 9:27:52 PM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com.)
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To: RasterMaster

Glad some folks on here remember....so refresh me...why did we lose 50,000 in Vietnam?...it scares me to think of guys that are missing limbs or are burnt over in Iraq...for nothing....i hope not!

yes...i know about the domino theory...didn't happen.


78 posted on 11/06/2006 9:29:32 PM PST by teldon30 (disgruntled 2nd class)
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To: rwgal

I agree with you and so should anyone that knew anyone that knows a Vietnam Vet. I had three Uncles serve in that war, I am so proud of them! They and you too deserve better then to have this kind of BS thing happen.

This is wrong, completely wroing!


79 posted on 11/06/2006 11:40:16 PM PST by Brandie (Support American troops and the IDF or bug off and stay out of my life.)
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To: teldon30

Those dominos fell and went right around to Afghanistan then to the USSR, itself. It was not the envisioned progression, but a progression it was.


80 posted on 11/07/2006 4:59:36 AM PST by ThanhPhero (di hanh huong den La Vang)
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