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Dad Still Lost As Missing Family Found Alive ( Latest on CNET Editor )
The Associated Press ^ | December 5, 2006

Posted on 12/05/2006 9:18:33 AM PST by george76

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To: Paradox
I watch too much of "Man vs Wild", "I Shouldn't be Alive",

I love those shows also. The other night a couple got lost in south America close to the amazon river. The same problem in the Oregon forest is that there so many tall trees that it is hard to get your bearings, which way is north, etc. The couple in the show "thought" that camp was north so they started traveling north, however camp was actually south because they had not traveled in a straight line and so they were actually getting farther from camp and deeper into the forest. I agree with a post a while back it usually is better to stay put, or at least stay on the roads.

61 posted on 12/05/2006 11:36:59 AM PST by Coffee_drinker (The best defense is a strong pre-emptive strike.)
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To: Uncle Hal

Same goes for boating. Never ever leave the boat and try to swim for it.


62 posted on 12/05/2006 11:37:02 AM PST by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestu s globus, inflammare animos)
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To: cherry

I recall a story some years back about 2 hunters who got caught in a surprise snowstorm right after shooting a prize buck. Their desire to drag the buck to the truck overruled common sense. They got sweaty and their clothes started freezing. THey panicked, got lost and long story short, froze to death.


63 posted on 12/05/2006 11:40:57 AM PST by Muzzle_em (taglines are for sissies)
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To: Muzzle_em
THey panicked, got lost and long story short, froze to death.

Wow thats too bad, kind of scary cause it can happen to even experienced outdoors men.
I had a close call one year: Myself and 3 other close friends were climbing Mt Hood (11,235 ft) and we got caught in a whiteout storm. Before that it was a beautiful sunny day. Knowing the area very well we knew what to do, 1st we tried just waiting it out because there are too many crevasses and cliffs to go wandering about basically blind. Once we figured it was getting worse and getting caught on the mt with only a days worth of food and water, we used our compasses to traverse the mt until we got to a land mark we knew existed and followed again our compasses back to the lodge. The key was we knew the area very well before hand.
The old boy scout training came in very well indeed.!

64 posted on 12/05/2006 11:49:38 AM PST by Coffee_drinker (The best defense is a strong pre-emptive strike.)
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To: CertainInalienableRights
It doesn't take long or cost much to assemble an emergency kit, and for the most part, once its done, you're prepared for the next couple of years

Good idea. I like to look through www.beprepared.com, the emergency kits. I haven't purchased from them or anything (yet), but you can get a good idea, also, they have some good sale prices sometimes.

65 posted on 12/05/2006 11:51:12 AM PST by Paradox (American Conservatives: Keeping the world safe for Liberalism.)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
When I don't know where I am, then I know that's where I am. :)
66 posted on 12/05/2006 11:58:37 AM PST by TheBigB (Do you think "Lady in the Water" is in Ted Kennedy's NetFlix queue?)
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To: BunnySlippers

I see...


67 posted on 12/05/2006 11:59:31 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: TheBigB

Well, we are all here because we're not all there.


68 posted on 12/05/2006 11:59:52 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: daybreakcoming

Always go downhill...


69 posted on 12/05/2006 12:00:54 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Paradox

I think that's the one I saw. His leaving his dad, against all advice and wisdom, was what saved their lives. I hope that this man is found.


70 posted on 12/05/2006 12:01:45 PM PST by twigs
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To: Paradox

Alive. Found alive.


71 posted on 12/05/2006 12:02:21 PM PST by twigs
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To: CertainInalienableRights

One could always see if those store burglar alarms work! ;^)


72 posted on 12/05/2006 12:02:28 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: null and void

LOL!!!


73 posted on 12/05/2006 12:02:57 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: twigs

I'm doing this very badly. I meant to write that I hope this man is found alive. I didn't think the family would be found alive and now we have three out of four back safely. Micracles do happen.


74 posted on 12/05/2006 12:03:50 PM PST by twigs
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To: Paradox

The show would be survivorman.

He made a judgement call to go for help after 6 days with no rescue in sight. His family was in a stable (but not good) situation. I think anybody could have made that choice especially seeing their kids freezing and asking to be rescued. It is tough to stay put.

There have been three other similar situations like this in this area over the last few years (at least to what I remember) and in all three of those cases if someone had not left to go get help the families would have never been found. Earlier this year on the same road a family was missing in their RV and they were found because two people left to go get help. If they can't find an RV on a road in the snow how would expect your car to be found.

Can't blame the guy...and if he were found first and brought rescue to the family what would everyone be saying.

He was faced with an impossible situation and he tried to do something about it. Can't fault him for that.


75 posted on 12/05/2006 12:06:49 PM PST by surfer
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To: surfer
He was faced with an impossible situation and he tried to do something about it. Can't fault him for that.

Oh yeah, I mean, unless we are actually THERE, and can look around take full appreciation of the situation, we can't make the call for the guy. He might have decided that chances of them being spotted were slim, he's the only one who can make that call..

76 posted on 12/05/2006 12:10:11 PM PST by Paradox (American Conservatives: Keeping the world safe for Liberalism.)
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To: surfer; All
Ironically, running out of gas may have been the best thing that happened to this family during their nine-day ordeal. Once the car got bogged down in snow, I suspect the biggest threat would have been carbon monoxide poisoning from inhaling the exhaust emissions in a confined space.

It seems like a few people die this way every winter in the Canadian Rockies when they get trapped in a snowstorm on a road trip.

77 posted on 12/05/2006 12:15:15 PM PST by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: surfer

Bookmarking


78 posted on 12/05/2006 12:21:56 PM PST by abner (Where are the calls in the Congress and Senate about sharing power???)
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To: Alberta's Child

I seem to recall another family getting lost in this area last year..in those back mountain roads near Gold Beach, OR. In that case, they were in a big camper, had some food and could stay fairly warm. Several people were in the camper. I forgot how they were rescued but after the feel-good stories in the media, it turned out that one of the snowbound fellows was wanted by the police.


79 posted on 12/05/2006 12:27:22 PM PST by Veto! (Opinions freely dispensed as advice)
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To: Coffee_drinker

As a local, were they 15 miles down the wrong road ?

How far beyond that to a cabin, town, etc. ?

One should be able to walk 2 to 3 miles per hour unless the snow was really high...without snow shoes or a x-c ski.


80 posted on 12/05/2006 12:33:29 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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