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GOP Views Clinton As Virtually Unbeatable
The Politico ^ | 2/7/2007 | Carrie Sheffield and Jim VandeHei

Posted on 02/07/2007 5:48:59 AM PST by Mike Bates

What many conservatives regard as the nightmare scenario -- President Hillary Rodham Clinton -- is increasingly seen by veteran Republican politicians and strategists as a virtual inevitability.

In GOP circles, the Democratic front-runner is seen as so strong, and the political climate for Republicans so hostile, that many influential voices -- including current and former lawmakers, and veterans of President Bush's campaigns -- have grown despairing. These partisans describe a political equivalent of the stages of grief, starting with denial, then resentment and ending with acceptance.

For now, these Republicans say the party needs good luck, including a change of fortune in Iraq, and a revival of organization and leadership in the conservative movement to avert another Clinton presidency.

"If the conservative movement and Republicans don't understand how massive the Clinton coalition is, she will be the next president," former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay said in an interview last week, after giving a private talk to GOP lawmakers. Clinton will win, he added, "if we don't use everything available to us and motivate our base, the people that believe in us."

In his closed-door comments to conservative House members, DeLay warned of the wealth and political potency of the Clinton fundraising network.

"We do have to get our act together, and I'd agree with Tom DeLay on that," said Rep. Steve King of Iowa. "At this point, short an inspirational Republican nominee, then I would agree that it's going to be very difficult to beat Hillary if she wins the nomination."

Those comments echoed those by former House Speaker Newt Gingrich last month on Fox News:

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elections; hillary; verrucktenfreude
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1 posted on 02/07/2007 5:49:00 AM PST by Mike Bates
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To: Mike Bates

Nothing like giving up early, is there? >:-P


2 posted on 02/07/2007 5:50:06 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: Mike Bates

This is exactly why we can't run a nominee who's only 25% more conservative than Hillary.


3 posted on 02/07/2007 5:50:32 AM PST by william clark (DH4WH)
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To: Mike Bates

That rat looked one hell of a lot better pre-photoshop. Also note that you picked a male rat. Yuk, yuk,yuk.


4 posted on 02/07/2007 5:51:03 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: Mike Bates
She is. The "Conservative" media would rather spend 90% of it time shooting it own people in the back. The Republican Establishment cannot get it head out of it butt. And the average "Conservative" would rather pout and bitch about everything then DO anything to win.

Add those three things together and it comes up with a 2008 political disaster for the Republicans. Might as well make peace with the GOP being in the minority for the next 20 years. The Perpetual Whiners are the Right will make sure that happens.
5 posted on 02/07/2007 5:52:40 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( If they say "speaking truth to power,"-they haven't had a l thought since the Beatles broke up)
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To: twonie

Guess I don't know as much about 'Rats as I should. Have to work on that.


6 posted on 02/07/2007 5:52:44 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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To: Mike Bates

"if we don't use everything available to us and motivate our base, the people that believe in us."

And how exactly do you motivate a base that you've ignored and abandoned? Hmmmmm?
I've said it before, and I see nothing that changes it, HRC is the next president. And no one will be happy with the result.


7 posted on 02/07/2007 5:54:06 AM PST by brownsfan (It's not a war on terror... it's a war with islam.)
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To: linda_22003

We cannot give up. She is beatable. She has so much baggage they won't let her in a good hotel. We have to take off the gloves and get in there and fight. Remember the swiftboaters? No Mr. Niceguys there.


8 posted on 02/07/2007 5:54:11 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: Mike Bates

Of course Shrillary is beatable, given a competent GOP candidate who runs a competent campaign. As Rush said, she puts her pants on one leg at a time the same as any other guy.


9 posted on 02/07/2007 5:54:28 AM PST by LiveFree99
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To: Mike Bates

I know this is like regretting the passing of the dinosaurs (i.e., they ain't coming back) but it wouldn't be such a depressing prospect if we at least had some media outlets that would do their jobs.


10 posted on 02/07/2007 5:54:35 AM PST by relictele
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To: Mike Bates

Say goodbye to the country we loved.


11 posted on 02/07/2007 5:55:08 AM PST by westmichman (They cried "Peace, peace," but there is no peace.)
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To: linda_22003
"Nothing like giving up early, is there? >:-P"

With the lack-luster field of Republicans currently running, there is NO hope (that's not "giving up early", it's REALITY) to defeat the Hildabeast.

With the MSM and the Looney Left having been drumming the Hildabeast tune into weak skulls for the past 7 years, and with constant fawning over her and keeping her name "in the news", while she avoids ANY hard questioning and is going to avoid every debate she can, there is no way to defeat her with those factors.

Unless some candidate appears, who is TRULY more conservative than any current potential nominee, you will have the Hildabeast in '08.

12 posted on 02/07/2007 5:55:10 AM PST by traditional1
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To: linda_22003

Let me guess; conservatives have to support frightened Big Government Republicans because the alternative is worse. So it's a choice between wuss and worse.


13 posted on 02/07/2007 5:55:18 AM PST by Grut
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To: Mike Bates

What a crock of total crap. The GOP views that harping beeyatch as no such thing. These MSM writers are in a circle jerk.


14 posted on 02/07/2007 5:55:20 AM PST by pissant
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To: Mike Bates

These Republicans are turning more idiotic by the day.

Of course this socialist, unlikeable witch known as Hitlery Rotten Clinton is beatable. If the Republicans
would have the spine to stand up for conservative principles, and articulate those principles, they, the
Republicans, could easily overcome a left wing demagogue
like madam Hillary. Go back to the core Reagan beliefs,
and stick to them, Republicans!


15 posted on 02/07/2007 5:55:23 AM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (The exit strategy in Iraq is simple....VICTORY!)
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GOP Views Clinton As Virtually Unbeatable

Well, they're right.
It's time to replace the RINOs in the GOP with someone who believes they can beat Hillary and has the guts to do it.

16 posted on 02/07/2007 5:56:21 AM PST by wai-ming
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To: brownsfan

The ignored and abandoned have to make an effort also. They cannot continue to sit on their hands and cite their poor treatment. New people will be running for us. Never give up.


17 posted on 02/07/2007 5:56:44 AM PST by twonie (Just because there are fewer of us don't mean we are wrong.)
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To: Mike Bates

As usual with these "fabricated for our DNC masters" stories, I don't see the headline or the first line in any of the quotes from the story.


18 posted on 02/07/2007 5:56:54 AM PST by John W
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To: Mike Bates

Who are the people who wrote this nonsense, and which republicans are they talking about? I'm not convinced that Hillary is going to get the dim nomination, let alone win the presidency.


19 posted on 02/07/2007 5:56:54 AM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment rights--buy another gun today.)
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To: brownsfan
I've said it before, and I see nothing that changes it, HRC is the next president. And no one will be happy with the result.

Oh, I'm sure some folks - like those in Havana and Caracas - would be pretty pleased.

20 posted on 02/07/2007 5:57:03 AM PST by Mike Bates (Irish Alzheimer's victim: I only remember the grudges.)
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