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Hillary: I Didn't Vote for War
Manchester Union Leader ^ | February 10, 2007 | John DiStaso

Posted on 02/10/2007 12:54:12 AM PST by Jim Noble

MANCHESTER – New York Sen. Hillary Clinton said yesterday her 2002 vote for a resolution authorizing the invasion of Iraq was "not a vote for a pre-emptive war," but instead a show of support for further United Nations weapons inspections.

The Democratic Presidential front-runner, who has been criticized by hard-line anti-war groups for not apologizing for the vote, emphasized that distinction in a telephone interview from Washington.

While fellow candidate John Edwards, a former senator, has apologized for his vote on the October 2002 resolution, Clinton again did not.

"I will let others speak for themselves," she said. "I have taken responsibility for that vote. It was based on the best assessment that I could make at the time, and it was clearly intended to demonstrate support for going to the United Nations to put inspectors into Iraq."

She said that when she explained her vote four years ago, "I said that it was not a vote for pre-emptive war."

A Clinton campaign spokesman later noted that on the Senate floor on Oct. 10, 2002, Clinton stated that her vote for the resolution "is not, however, a vote for any new doctrine of pre-emption, or for unilateralism, or for the arrogance of American power or purpose -- all of which carry grave dangers for our nation, for the rule of international law and for the peace and security of people the throughout the world."

In the interview, the former first lady said the Bush administration forced an end to the final round of weapons inspections and invaded prematurely. The administration is responsible for the current status of the war, she said, and for being "grossly misinformed" or for having "twisted the intelligence to satisfy a preconceived version of the facts" before the invasion.

"Either interpretation casts grave doubt on their judgment," she said. "If they were so intent on pursuing military action, a pre-emptive action, which I said at the time I opposed, against Saddam Hussein, then why on earth were they not better prepared and more competent in its execution?"

Clinton said Bush and his administration "have performed a great disservice to our men and women in uniform, to our country, to our vital national security interests in the region and to the ongoing struggle against Islamic extremists."

Clinton spoke with the New Hampshire Union Leader on the eve of her first campaign visit to the first-in-the-nation primary state. She is scheduled to talk to voters today in Berlin and Concord and tomorrow in Manchester, Nashua and Keene. She last visited the state in 1996.

Also yesterday, Clinton said she would campaign in New Hampshire even if the primary date set by Secretary of State William Gardner under a state law does not comply with the Jan. 22, 2008, date written into a new party rule by Democratic National Committee (see related story).

Clinton said she has proposed capping the U.S. military force in Iraq at the Jan. 1 level and has "voted for more than a year and a half to begin redeploying our troops out of Iraq."

She does not "at this time" support a cut in funding for American troops in Iraq. She backs instead a cut in funding for Iraqi troops.

"We have got to get their attention," she said of the Iraqi leadership. She said they "do not fulfill their promises" and make "worthless" assurances.

She predicted that if Congress were to approve a funding cut, Bush would veto it.

"I hate to say that," she said, "but I think that shows the level of stubbornness and rigidity that we are confronting with this President."

And what may have been veiled criticism of at least some of her Democratic opponents, Clinton said, "This is a very difficult situation we find ourselves in, and anyone who thinks there are easy answers or flip rhetoric that can be used is not fully appreciating the challenge that those of us confront who are trying to set up circumstances that will persuade the President to do what we all expect and want him to do."

Clinton did not say how she would have voted on New Hampshire Republican Sen. Judd Gregg's proposed nonbinding Senate resolution simply opposing any cuts in troop funding. She said she backed a resolution by Republican Sen. John Warner and Democratic Sen. Carl Levin to oppose the Bush troop "surge" while also opposing a funding cut.

Bush, she said, "has proven impervious to the election results, so we are trying to get the political support we need in the Congress" to pass a strong anti-escalation statement in a nonbinding resolution.

She said the breakdown of efforts in the Senate this week to pass the Warner-Levin resolution was the result of "a Republican strategic decision to try to divert attention from doing that very straightforward task of sending a clear message to the White House."

She supported even stronger measures, saying, "The President should have to get a new congressional authorization if he is going to move down this path."

Clinton said that after the United Nations Security Council supported sending inspectors into Iraq in November 2002, "Saddam Hussein was contained and there was no reason not to let the inspectors finish their job to find answers to the questions many people had."

She said Congress' authorization a month earlier "did not necessarily require the President to short-circuit the process to launch the invasion," adding, "The abrupt conclusion of the inspection process, I think, was a mistake."

She said an earlier Bush mistake came when he "diverted attention from Afghanistan and the war against al-Qaida and the opportunity to build a strong international alliance against extremism and terrorism" and focused on Saddam.

She said had she been President, "I think I would never had asked for" authority to invade Iraq because she would not have begun the war.

Elaborating, she said: "But once a President asks for such authority, you either vote to give it to him or vote to withhold it from him. If you look at the options that were available, giving the President authority to make it very clear to the security council, to Iraq and to the world that we were serious about forcing Saddam Hussein to comply with his obligations under various United Nations' resolutions and the agreement he entered into at the end of the first Gulf War was a reasonable policy.

"What was not reasonable was manipulating the intelligence, which we now know occurred, and refusing to allow the inspectors under the edict of the United Nations to do their work."

The Washington Post reported yesterday that a Pentagon inspector general had found that intelligence provided by a former undersecretary of defense to buttress the White House case for the invasion included "reporting of dubious quality or reliability" that supported the political views of senior administration officials.

"This unfortunately confirms what we've been discovering in the last three years," Clinton said, "that the administration never intended to let the inspectors complete their work despite assurances to the contrary and that they gilded the lily on the intelligence they had."

Clinton said, "If we had known then what we know now about both the allegations concerning Saddam's intentions and capacity and about our own government's intentions, we would never have had a vote, and if there had been a vote, I certainly would never have voted to give the President authority," she said.


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To: TigersEye

she's following kerry's path of spinning the vote for war


21 posted on 02/10/2007 1:34:04 AM PST by 4rcane
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To: Nachoman
Unfortunately except when used in relation to the war powers act or war on terrorism the word somehow came up missing in that resolution. Don't bother searching for Declaration of War against Iraq. There is no such critter. There was a joint resolution of authorizing force which she is using for this purpose. Can anyone misinterpret these words?

JOINT RESOLUTION Declaring that a state of war exists between the Imperial Government of Japan and the Government and the people of the United States and making provisions to prosecute the same.

Whereas the Imperial Government of Japan has committed unprovoked acts of war against the Government and the people of the United States of America: Therefore be it Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the state of war between the United States and the Imperial Government of Japan which has thus been thrust upon the United States is hereby formally declared; and the President is hereby authorized and directed to employ the entire naval and military forces of the United States and the resources of the Government to carry on war against the Imperial Government of Japan; and, to bring the conflict to a successful termination, all of the resources of the country are hereby pledged by the Congress of the United States. Approved, December 8, 1941, 4:10 p.m. E.S.T.

A grade school kid could understand it's meaning. Compare it to this Joint Resolution to Authorize the Use of United States Armed Forces Against Iraq If you try to read it you'll just get mad. It was written by lawyers for loop holes. No one required to make a solid commitment to it. She likely laughed and whispered you fools under her breath when she signed the stinking thing. If our troops are to be sent into combat they deserve no less than a full declaration of war. Congress did not make such a declaration and Hillary is using it against the GOP for her gain.

22 posted on 02/10/2007 1:38:48 AM PST by cva66snipe (Rudy, the Liberal Media's first choice for the GOP nomination. Not on my vote not even in Nov 2008..)
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To: 4rcane

Yeah. "I voted for the war before I wished I hadn't voted for the war."


23 posted on 02/10/2007 1:41:01 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: Jim Noble
If I was Obama's campaign manager, I'd be laughing this morning.

Regards, Ivan

24 posted on 02/10/2007 1:43:39 AM PST by MadIvan (I aim to misbehave.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Ultimately, if it assured her place in history, Hillary would likely sell out her base.

That and the fact that she truly is a rather dim bulb will sink her. She won't have the sense to not say things that her sheeple base will believe are treason to their socialism. Their inability to think will trap them and her and her inability to think will lead them into it.

25 posted on 02/10/2007 1:48:03 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: Notwithstanding
Your # 12 Hillary quotes should have been included in the article. They demonstrate the disdain Hillary holds for voters, as if voters don't have the common sense, or collective memory to recognize political lies when they hear them spewed by a self-serving wannabee president.

From the article:
"In the interview, the former first lady said the Bush administration forced an end to the final round of weapons inspections and invaded prematurely. The administration is responsible for the current status of the war, she said, and for being "grossly misinformed" or for having "twisted the intelligence to satisfy a preconceived version of the facts" before the invasion.

"Either interpretation casts grave doubt on their judgment," she said. "If they were so intent on pursuing military action, a pre-emptive action, which I said at the time I opposed, against Saddam Hussein, then why on earth were they not better prepared and more competent in its execution?"

Bush "grossly misinformed" Hillary so she should get a pass on supporting him with her vote, but in the same conversation, Hillary says grave doubts should be placed on Bush for being "grossly misinformed".

Double-speak or double-standards?

26 posted on 02/10/2007 1:49:10 AM PST by YaYa123
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To: Jim Noble
New York Sen. Hillary Clinton said yesterday her 2002 vote for a resolution authorizing the invasion of Iraq was "not a vote for a pre-emptive war," but instead a show of support for further United Nations weapons inspections.

The so-called smartest woman in American didn't know that she was voting for war? Oh, by all means, let's promote her to the presidency.

27 posted on 02/10/2007 1:50:20 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: Peach; TigersEye

It's kind of funny how accurate that Saturday Night Live skit from a few weeks ago was.


28 posted on 02/10/2007 1:53:16 AM PST by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

She can only get more hilarious the further out on that limb she scoots. Wait 'til her Democratick opponents start jabbing her with her flip flopping. Her graceless manner of responding should be a goldmine for comedians.


29 posted on 02/10/2007 1:59:27 AM PST by TigersEye (Ego chatters endlessly on. Mind speaks in great silence.)
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To: Jim Noble

How could "the smartest woman in the world" be fooled by "the dumbest President ever"? Something is wrong here. /sarc


30 posted on 02/10/2007 2:00:03 AM PST by Lokibob (Some people are like slinkys. Useless, but if you throw them down the stairs, you smile.)
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To: Jim Noble

Shouldn't Her Heinous be in Upstate New York, where Governor Spitzer has declared a National Disaster Emergency? Almost 100 inches of snow has fallen, with no end in sight.

Will they call Queen Hillary on her "Katrina problem?"


31 posted on 02/10/2007 2:01:17 AM PST by Cincinna (HILLARY & HER HINO "We are going to take things away from you for the Common Good")
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
In other words she is crazy. I mean that literally.
32 posted on 02/10/2007 2:48:13 AM PST by BARLF
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To: Jim Noble

Here's your next president America!

Get used to it. This is what you want.


33 posted on 02/10/2007 2:55:54 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: Jim Noble

Evil incarnate.


34 posted on 02/10/2007 3:04:05 AM PST by hershey
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To: sauropod

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35 posted on 02/10/2007 3:04:44 AM PST by hellinahandcart (Rudy is so far to the left that we can pick up votes in Blue states)
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To: Jim Noble
New York Sen. Hillary Clinton said yesterday her 2002 vote for a resolution authorizing the invasion of Iraq was "not a vote for a pre-emptive war," but instead a show of support for further United Nations weapons inspections.


36 posted on 02/10/2007 3:07:58 AM PST by New Perspective (Proud father of a 3 year old son with Down Syndrome)
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To: Jim Noble

37 posted on 02/10/2007 3:17:02 AM PST by Recovering_Democrat (I am SO glad to no longer be associated with the party of Dependence on Government!)
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To: Notwithstanding

thanks for the list


38 posted on 02/10/2007 3:18:46 AM PST by sure_fine ( • not one to over kill the thought process™ •)
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To: ScaniaBoy

I'm not sure she still will be in the race when the real campaign starts.



Sure she will, because the left doesn't care about truth, only power. I predict this will be her normal course of action; flat out lie in the face of the completely obvious and her supporters will rally around her.


39 posted on 02/10/2007 3:23:14 AM PST by kenth (I wish compassionate conservatives were more compassionate to conservatism.)
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To: Jim Noble

Liar, liar, pant-suit on fire.


40 posted on 02/10/2007 3:25:57 AM PST by 76Tiger
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