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Pardon Libby? Left and Right Erupt in a Fight
The New York Times ^ | March 7, 2007 | Scott Shane

Posted on 03/08/2007 2:12:21 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

If some people imagined a verdict in the criminal trial of I. Lewis Libby Jr. would calm the political passions surrounding his fate, they may have forgotten two words with a combustible history: presidential pardon.

The 11 jurors had barely pronounced Mr. Libby guilty of obstruction of justice and perjury on Tuesday when a new donnybrook broke out.

“Now President Bush must pledge not to pardon Libby for his criminal conduct,” declared Senator Harry Reid, the Senate majority Leader, a stance echoed by other Congressional Democrats, editorial writers and bloggers on the left.

On the right, The Wall Street Journal thundered in an editorial today, “The time for a pardon is now” — a point of view shared by The Weekly Standard, The National Review and conservative admirers and friends of Mr. Libby. Many of the calls for his pardon demanded immediate action, instead of a wait for appeals to wend their way through the courts.

President Bush has avoided comment on the pardon question, telling an interviewer today from the Spanish-language version of CNN that in view of Mr. Libby’s plans to seek a new trial and, if necessary, to appeal his conviction, “it’s inappropriate for me, or the administration, to be issuing comments about this serious matter.”

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Why didn't the jurors that believed him innocent just refuse to vote for conviction?
1 posted on 03/08/2007 2:12:24 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bush doesn't have the loyalty; he'll let the appeals process go on hoping he can avoid upsetting the people who already despise him.

Sad.


2 posted on 03/08/2007 2:36:59 AM PST by Finalapproach29er (Dems will impeach Bush if given a chance.)
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To: Finalapproach29er
Fasten your seat belt cuz I am afraid it is just going to get worse. The success of the media in recent years isn't going to make them less partisan and they won't be resting on their laurels. Obtaining power may be a narcotic but having it just puts it in the syringe. USING it is going to be exhilarating. Those of us whom they will be using it on are in for it. Remember they hate us worse than Ben Laden.
3 posted on 03/08/2007 2:46:28 AM PST by wastoute
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My, oh my. They didn't have a problem with clinton's pardons but they want the Pres. to PLEDGE not to give a pardon to Libby? I doubt that Pres. Bush would pardon him, but I sure hope he has the balls to tell reid to go pound salt in the meantime.


4 posted on 03/08/2007 2:57:29 AM PST by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like what you say))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why didn't the jurors that believed him innocent just refuse to vote for conviction?

Because they are gutless wonders.

I was amazed as everyone else when these jurors started appearing telling everyone Bush should pardon Libby, or that they "felt sympathy" for Libby, or that he was a "fall guy."

If they had reasonable doubt, they should have voted not to acquit.

In short - they didn't do their jobs, and now they want someone else to do it for them.

The above is a perfect definition of liberalism.

5 posted on 03/08/2007 3:06:46 AM PST by SkyPilot
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Here's what President Bush should do. Pardon Libby and Tom Delay. Inform Americans that politicized prosecutors have been abusing the rights of Americans. Order the Attorney General to open up investigations of Patrick Fitzgerald and that Earl guy in Texas and throw in Nifong. Explain how the Democrats have been criminalizing policy differences for decades and that he Mr Bush is going to bring an end to that.

Then stand back, exploding heads can be messy.

Will President Bush do this. Uh, nope. The Bush inner wimp has completely taken over the shell of a man.

6 posted on 03/08/2007 3:07:40 AM PST by Jabba the Nutt (Jabba the Hutt's bigger, meaner, uglier brother.)
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To: SkyPilot

Boy, ol' Jenine Garafalo sure has put on some weight, hasn't she?


7 posted on 03/08/2007 3:23:15 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Newt Gingrich/John Bolton 2008)
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I hope that Libby wins in the appeal process and that it does more to expose the sham that Libby was put through.

I wish the Bush administration had done more initially to head of a Libby persecution..er, prosecution, they look weak and ineffective and even, as some have said, disloyal.

But, to pardon Libby now, before the appeals process has had a chance to rectify this miscarriage of justice and perversion of public opinion, would be a mistake that would only serve Bush's enemies and hurt Republicans in 2008.

8 posted on 03/08/2007 3:31:03 AM PST by GBA (God Bless America!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This case has a pretty good chance of being overturned on appeal and a pardon now would just make it look like he really was guilty of something.


9 posted on 03/08/2007 4:01:05 AM PST by libertylover (If it's good and decent, you can be sure the Democrat Party leaders are against it.)
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To: GBA; All

"I hope that Libby wins in the appeal process and that it does more to expose the sham that Libby was put through."

Any chance that the Wilson/Plame civil suit will expose them and their motives in this tragic case?


10 posted on 03/08/2007 4:28:47 AM PST by Kimberly GG (DUNCAN HUNTER '08.....lframerica.com.....MARCH TO TAKE BACK AMERICA)
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To: libertylover
This case has a pretty good chance of being overturned on appeal and a pardon now would just make it look like he really was guilty of something.

I agree. I think Libby will win on appeal, but if there's any justice, the j