Posted on 04/06/2007 8:03:00 PM PDT by Mia T
VOTE SMART UPDATE:
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4.04.2007
Ziegler-Clifford: Just A Warm Up For 2008
Today's Leader Telegram 2 had a citizen letter to the editor that made the point that while they seem to be media/party darlings at this point, neither Obama or Clinton will be capable of winning. Though the piece was obviously written by a conservative, I felt it had "something", some ring of truth. Then later, seeing these 4 videos (below) 3 in succession, I felt quite certain that yes, there is just too much out there on both of them that will be dug up and flung for them to win.
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Leader Telegram
Letter: Dems' presidential well runs dry
Who will the Dems run against the Republicans' Mitt Romney-John Thune ticket next year?
The apparent frontrunners are Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Both could conceivably carry the party standard, but neither can win the White House.
By election time we will have had 20 consecutive years of a Clinton or a Bush. Can America tolerate another four or eight from a Clinton? No way. That general weariness, clearly exemplified by the 2006 election, coupled with Clinton's high negatives -- according to one poll, 44 percent of registered voters will not vote for her under any circumstance -- will have her melting faster than one of those glaciers in Al Gore's movie.
Talk about the audacity of hope, Barack thinks his six months in the national spotlight qualifies him for our highest office. Dave Zien and Rob Kreibich have more experience and better credentials. Despite the deification by the mainstream media and the messiah treatment from the Hollywood celebs, he remains a lightweight who appeals mostly to the fringe-left of the party.
John Edwards had his chance and can go back to making millions as an ambulance-chasing lawyer. Joe Lieberman has been practically excommunicated for placing the good of the country above partisan politics.
That leaves Bill Richardson, Dennis Kucinich and Mike Gravel. Who?
With only two incumbent senators ever elected to the presidency, folks such as Clinton, Obama, Christopher Dodd and Joe Biden likely would suffer the same fate as John Kerry. But Democrats are incredibly slow learners come nomination time.
It's been nearly 50 years since a bunch of dead voters from Cook County, Ill., swept John F. Kennedy into office. Since then the Dems have had success only with Lyndon Johnson, Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton -- all non-senators from southern Red States. They should draw their water from that well.
A potential winner is not yet on the radar screen.
DAVID HANVELT
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Yes, you are the “3rd one” that the poster is referencing, Mia T.
I’ve said it before...thank you, and I’ll say it again...thank you.
Outstanding!
Thanks, PGalt.
And I have to thank everyone at FR who has helped increase the rank of the video by viewing it, and perhaps by voting or commenting. Increasing the rank increases the exposure.
“With only two incumbent senators ever elected to the presidency, folks such as Clinton, Obama, Christopher Dodd and Joe Biden likely would suffer the same fate as John Kerry. But Democrats are incredibly slow learners come nomination time.”
Smart fellow.
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And Clinton wouldn’t have won without Ross Perot.
True.
Those videos were pretty garbage-tastic. I admit to only watching the two you reccomended most, the Clinton one and the anti-Muslim one. Most of the Clinton vid was just clips from that ad along with random one-frame pictures of anti-clinton graphics. It really brought up nothing relevant about Hilary.
I couldnt finish the second one, since it was just some guy ranting on about how bad Obama is without citing any sources.
I see you are (very) new to this forum. You should get informed. (Or maybe the problem is you already are....)
The three elephants in the room:
3- the clintons' documented abuse of power 4 (redacted via clinton abuse of power!) It doesn't require more than half a brain and 10% of the data to understand why this self-absorbed, noxious, vacant pair must not be allowed anywhere near the Oval Office ever again. We must make sure the electorate get at least 10% of the data. And we must target the demographic missus clinton is targeting: women, and especially young, single women. And VOTE SMART: A WARNING TO ALL WOMEN ABOUT HILLARY CLINTON does just that.
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And, btw, I didn’t recommend the other videos. Some leftist commentator on a liberal website did.
The point of this thread is what THE LEFTIST is saying, which is that the videos underscore the plain fact that hillary (and obama) are unelectable.
BTTT
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