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1 posted on 04/13/2007 7:45:50 PM PDT by Mia T
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2 posted on 04/13/2007 7:48:27 PM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T
As the leading practitioner of Marxism in the West Hillary is the chief source of destabilization of democracies.
5 posted on 04/13/2007 7:52:20 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (here come I, gravitas in tow.)
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To: Mia T

Anyone who thinks socialism will improve health care should look and see what socialism has done to public education.

Oh BTW, when Hillary was finished with public education in Arkansas, it was far worse than before.


6 posted on 04/13/2007 7:55:16 PM PDT by rottndog (If you don't believe in the abolition of government run schools, your views aren't radical enough.)
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To: Mia T
Heading up health-care reform was the only major administrative job she has ever tried to do. And she was a complete flop at it. She had neither the grasp of policy substance, the managerial skills, nor the political smarts to do the job she was then given. And she wasn't smart enough to realize that she was in over her head and had to get out of the Health Care Czar role quickly.... there is no reason to think that she would be anything but an abysmal president

I don't agree with this assessment. I think she knew just what she was doing. It was not a case where her execution flopped it was her socialist ideas that were bad.

However the frog has been slowing warming in the pot for over a decade now. She will be much slicker about it next time. Her next attempt will probably not flop. And that is what scares me now.

7 posted on 04/13/2007 7:58:31 PM PDT by plain talk
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Some think that health care is expensive now.

Wait until it is ‘free.’


11 posted on 04/13/2007 8:36:12 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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Hillary will destroy———fill in the blank


24 posted on 04/14/2007 7:26:39 AM PDT by gulfcoast6
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To: Mia T; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Grampa Dave; gonzo

28 posted on 04/14/2007 8:19:05 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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Found this little tidbit:
"One of the most terrifying features of the rejected HillaryCare proposal, through which the Clinton Administration attempted to seize the health care industry and nationalize 15 percent of our gross national product, was the section mandating the criminal prosecution of physicians for "bribery" and "fraud," which would have included the provision of health care services deemed "medically unnecessary" by federal officials. These enforcement provisions were intended to put the muscle of federal enforcement power at the service of the Clinton Administration’s philosophy of medical rationing.

As explained by Hillary Clinton in testimony to the Senate Finance Committee on September 30, 1994, the Administration’s socialized medicine plan would not deny treatment unless "it is not appropriate," meaning that in the view of government regulators, it "will not enhance or save the quality of life." What of doctors who took their Oath of Hippocrates seriously and sought to provide treatments not covered by the federal plan? Under HillaryCare, if doctors provided "unauthorized" treatment on a fee-for-service basis, they would have been subject to fines as large as $50,000, forfeiture of their property, and — in some cases — life imprisonment. When such horrific provisions received widespread publicity, the HillaryCare scheme was defeated — apparently. It is not widely understood that the Administration’s rejected plan to socialize health care merely amplified the statist trend presently undermining our health care system. That trend is best described as "corporate socialized medicine" — or, if one prefers, medical fascism.

Under the ethics of Hippocrates, physicians place the interest of the individual patient above that of the practitioner or society at large. But under corporate socialized medicine, or what is more commonly known as "managed competition," the physician is required to place cost considerations and the interest of third-party payers — such as insurance companies and Health Maintenance Organizations (HMOs) — above the concerns of the patient. This leads to the adoption of what Swiss physician-philosopher Ernest Truffer calls the "veterinary ethic," in which the human patient is treated like a pet and provided with the type of medical care determined by the "master" — in this case, the person or corporation responsible for paying the medical bills.

Even without the enactment of Hillary Clinton’s ghastly socialized medicine program, America’s health care system is in serious danger of being shackled with the worst aspects of HillaryCare — rationing of health care and the criminalization of transitional medicine. For the first time in the history of American medicine, physicians are being coaxed or coerced — depending on the stubbornness of the practitioner — into rationing health care by restricting their patients’ access to specialists or to specialized treatments."


30 posted on 04/14/2007 8:20:41 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (The most dangerous place in the world is between Hillary and the Oval Office)
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Socialized medicine will come at the behest of Corporate America, so they can “compete” with other countries. And it will be brought to you by BOTH parties.


31 posted on 04/14/2007 8:20:53 AM PDT by Wolfie
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Hillary Clinton Will Destroy Health Care

Hillary destroys everything she touches. Just ask Vince Foster and the pile of dead bodies she and her nominal husband have left in their wake.

34 posted on 04/14/2007 8:48:54 AM PDT by mborman (Never argue with an idiot; they'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.)
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To: Mia T

Hillary’s election as Prez would be “Nightmare on Main Street”.


35 posted on 04/14/2007 8:51:59 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Is the American voter smarter than a fifth grader?)
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To: Mia T

It also looks like America’s business wants to get rid of health plans. They sell us out on the illegals and now health care. We should be part of the NWO soon.


44 posted on 04/14/2007 2:22:45 PM PDT by bmwcyle ( Freep Fox they drop the ball on GOE)
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