Posted on 04/19/2007 11:04:50 AM PDT by Mia T
Perhaps you should re-read the mission statement of the website.
It is adamantly against abortion, and so are most of its members.
The "inanities" we are posting is the God-honest truth. Rudy is pro-abortion, all the cute little graphics that Mia T posts will not change this irrefutable fact.
Give me a break. The poster doesn't have a leg to stand on and her argument is flat-out wrong.
You guys pushing for Rudy on a CONSERVATIVE website ought to be ashamed of yourselves. If I owned this site I'd zot all your asses.
Tell that to God. He put his positions into stone. What is good and right today will be good and right tomorrow.
Conditions change.
Typically heard out of a 'progressives' mouth when talking about why we need Homosexual marriage after thousands of years of Marriage being Man and Woman! Typically heard out of a progressives mouth when talking about idiotic Sexual Harassment and Gun Control Laws! Typically heard out of a 'progressives' mouth when talking about hate crimes.
The idea is to win so that the defective and dangerous clintons do not retake the White House, not that any particular R becomes president.
In winning at all cost we become the Clintons.
We should field the strongest R. To do any less would be irresponsible.
So if we could get John Skarry, The Goreacle, or Bubba himself to run as a R, and they had the best chance of beating Hillary you would vote for them?
Wednesday, April 18, 2007 '08 Candidates: Consideration ABC News/Washington Post poll --------Definitely would NOT support-------- 54% 47% 45% 40% 36% 35% Romney McCain Clinton Giuliani Obama Edwards --------------------------------------------http://abcnews.go.com/images/US/1036a4Election.pdf
Clinton is one of the weakest Democrat candidates to come along in recent memory. Why would we increase her chances of success by nominating an equally-weak candidate like Romney, McCain, or Giuliani?
And Mia T, I appreciate your work in keeping the FR world updated on Her Nastiness, but I won't vote for a pro-abort just to deny her getting the job of POTUS.
I even go so far as to remind hardcore lefties where the profits from Mena and other "off budget" funds went to.
Sometimes other FReepers will say (to the effect) of "We're gonna get an abortionist, one way or the other, so go with the one who will be easiest on your wallet".
Wrong
If we don’t win, we will HAVE the clintons.
Thanks for the expression of appreciation. :)
I don’t want to see any of our children—the living, the unborn, the not yet even imagined— ‘butchered’. But surely you understand that one will ‘butcher’ them more efficiently than hillary clinton.
To be clear, to avoid voting for Rudy, (who will appoint strict constructionist judges and prosecute the war with all he has-what more can a president functionally do?), you will, in fact, be placing your de facto vote for hillary clinton, inept, corrupt and seditious, who WILL SURELY NOT ONLY APPOINT PRO-ABORTION JUDGES, SHE WILL MAKE SURE ABORTION IS MORE READILY AVAILABLE THAN IT IS NOW. And that doesn’t even begin to explore all the other ways she will put our children’s lives in peril.
If this isn’t immoral, irrational and self-destructive, I don’t know what is.
Their positions are very similar, their motives may be very different however.
Isn’t that remark you all have been attributing to Rudy supposed to have been referencing MR. clinton?
Nothing reflects a president’s philosophy more than the justices he will appoint. Contrast Rudy Giuliani’s statements about Roberts and Alito with hillary clinton’s. (see above.) Nothing more need be said.
Hatred of Giuliani and years of looking at the issue of ‘life’ through the narrow lens of abortion can and has warped reality for some here.
Be careful. You can easily wind up with your worst nightmare.
Another point: You really have only 2 choices in this de facto 2-party system of ours, R or D. If you vote 3rd party (or sit it out), you will be helping to elect the D.
Sorry m'am, but Rudy's track record as to appointing judges etc, shows a 85%+/- in favor of "D" party members.
Then we add in his 'open borders' and anti Second Amendment attitudes ....
I can over look his draft dodging, hell we were all scared kids in those days, some found their manhood, other choose to act manly via chasing ladies (Little shot at Newt there too).
If this is the best the Republicans can do, then we (IMHO) deserve to lose.
Cold blooded surely, but if the Party has moved that far left, then I'm gone.
Excellent. bump.
Funny there were a ton of names on the 2004 Ballot
Illusions. Mirages.
Oh, I don't need to re-read it. I have seen it posted here a hundred times by all those who fear reasoned debate and simply want all but the social right to disappear, much like what happens on DU.
It is adamantly against abortion, and so are most of its members.
I don't think I or anyone else on the side of reason has said otherwise.
The "inanities" we are posting is the God-honest truth. Rudy is pro-abortion, all the cute little graphics that Mia T posts will not change this irrefutable fact.
Oh, I know. My statements as well as those of the author are not for you. They are for the hundreds and thousands of lurkers who are afraid to challenge the far right and its agenda of political suicide.
Nor did I mention Rudy. I simply posited that any of the Republican candidates would be infinitely better for this Nation than would Hillary...and explained why.
For what it's worth, few Americans believe that any of the myriad of abortion related issues comes close to the real challenges facing the Country. It's unfortunate that those here who continually claim to be conservatives don't start acting conservative.
Insults and threats of banning are hardly conservative tactics.
You really have a knack for words. Conservatives come in may different stripes. Social conservatives, economic conservatives, and a combination of both. I happen to be of the third kind. You don’t define me, I define myself on how I vote. I've voted for the Republican candidate in every single election. I'll support the Republican nominee no matter who it is. That's more than you can say. You few issues guys seem to think that it’s your way or no way. Sorry, I don’t buy that.
Sorry m’am, but Rudy’s track record as to appointing judges etc, shows a 85%+/- in favor of “D” party members.
Then we add in his ‘open borders’ and anti Second Amendment attitudes ....
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wait wait wait... Rudy’s track record on judges was in NYC where he had to choose from a list, provided by a democratic group - unfair to judge on that.
I was just in Des Moines where he said he was for a wall between Mexico and the US - how is that open borders.
2nd amendment - again IMO unfair to say he’s a gun grabber because of what he did in NYC. He has said he knows there needs to be different guidelines in “montana verus nyc” for example.
I understand you guys hate him but I don’t think you’re noting is positions clearly.
Fiscal conservative, tough on GWoT and I believe he will make good judge choices - good enough for me.
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