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The New New World Order
ForeignAffairs.org ^ | March/April 2007 | Daniel W. Drezner

Posted on 06/17/2007 8:47:21 AM PDT by fangle

Controversies over the war in Iraq and U.S. unilateralism have overshadowed a more pragmatic and multilateral component of the Bush administration's grand strategy: its attempt to reconfigure U.S. foreign policy and international institutions in order to account for shifts in the global distribution of power and the emergence of states such as China and India. This unheralded move is well intentioned and well advised, and Washington should redouble its efforts.

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1 posted on 06/17/2007 8:47:24 AM PDT by fangle
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"Incorporating emerging powers while placating status quo states is no simple feat. But the task should appear less daunting when it is understood that success will benefit ascendant states as much as it will the United States. It will bring ascendant states recognition and legitimacy to match their new power. Granted, they will have to accept a multilateral order built on U.S. principles. But they -- especially China and India -- have grown phenomenally by doing just that. Now that they are concerned with sustaining their current high rates of economic growth, emerging powers share some interests with the United States on issues such as the security of energy supplies and the prevention of global pandemics."
2 posted on 06/17/2007 9:45:56 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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“China’s efforts do not necessarily conflict with U.S. interests, but they could if Beijing so desired. From a U.S. perspective, it would be preferable for China and India to advance their interests within U.S.-led global governance structures rather than outside of them. The United States could get something in return for accommodating these states in institutions such as the UN and the IMF and giving them the recognition and prestige they demand: a commitment by Beijing and New Delhi that they will accept the key rules of the global game.”-———————

Yeah, just send them another 2.3 trillion and the rest of our manufacturing, expertise, and weaponry.

They built the EMs up, especially China, and now that the genie is out of the bottle, now, they are looking at the governments and trying to rein them in to keep from being shutout of the new financial order.

It’s coming and our Masters did it to us. In fact, I think our Masters may be shut out too.

They are too clever by half.


3 posted on 06/17/2007 9:49:00 AM PDT by OpusatFR
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There are so many scary statements in that article.

Reading these goals of the Council on Foreign Relations, it looks to me like the CFR may be the source of the hidden/not so hidden agenda that requires the current push by President Bush for what would seem otherwise inexplicable policies: North American Union, amnesty for illegal immigrants, and giving Mexican truckers free access to our highways.


4 posted on 06/17/2007 11:43:32 AM PDT by fangle
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just what are "US principles"?????

as it seems to me, its kill off the American middle/working class in favor of all power and money in the hands of the elitist.....

anybody else worried that our hard earned 401ks and our Iras/roths are going to be taxed so heavily or indexed so heavily that the money will mean nothing at all in coming years..

that way, your 40 yrs of tax paying citizenship will mean about as much as an illegal alien crossing over and claiming rights....

I fear for this nation....

5 posted on 06/17/2007 11:49:51 AM PDT by cherry
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Yes, yes, and yes!


6 posted on 06/17/2007 11:52:39 AM PDT by hershey
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Yes, we should listen to our masters prescription for the future since they've spent the past 30+ yrs. hollowing out this country with their trade policies, building up Red China, and all the while expecting them to be grateful for the leg up. Nowhere along the way has China done anything except take any advantage yielded, and continued to prepare itself for the day when it will be able to militarily challenge us with the forces we have allowed them to build with our money.

Now that we have dug our own grave and built our own coffin, under the direction of the fools who've been running our foreign policy, they're getting nervous about the choice between committing suicide and being murdered?

7 posted on 06/17/2007 12:19:54 PM PDT by penowa (NO more Bushes; NO more Clintons EVER!)
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I know you cannot hear me clapping after reading your post.

But I am!


8 posted on 06/17/2007 12:23:04 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: cherry; All

“just what are “US principles”?????”

My principles are: Sauve qui peut!

I tried to be a loyal citizen, but no longer at the expense of my family’s future.


9 posted on 06/17/2007 1:05:43 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: cherry
anybody else worried that our hard earned 401ks and our Iras/roths are going to be taxed so heavily or indexed so heavily that the money will mean nothing at all in coming years..

Taxed? I fear they will be seized for "the good of all".

10 posted on 06/17/2007 1:07:53 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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A very important thread and so few willing to read it. It must scare everyone.


11 posted on 06/17/2007 1:09:37 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: fangle

Whoa..


12 posted on 06/17/2007 1:11:33 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet -Fred'08)
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To: OpusatFR

It’s coming and our Masters did it to us. In fact, I think our Masters may be shut out too.

I think you just hit the nail on the proverbial head.


13 posted on 06/17/2007 1:14:05 PM PDT by Shaun_MD ("Republic of Texas")
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1851423/posts?page=167#167

Very good question on the table on the above thread. Sorry to spam, but it’s very relevant.


14 posted on 06/17/2007 1:16:08 PM PDT by jedward (Mission '08 - Take back the House & Senate. No Negotiations...No Prisoners.)
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To: fangle
Reading these goals of the Council on Foreign Relations, it looks to me like the CFR may be the source of the hidden/not so hidden agenda that requires the current push by President Bush for what would seem otherwise inexplicable policies: North American Union, amnesty for illegal immigrants, and giving Mexican truckers free access to our highways.

The membership list is a Who's Who of American policymakers for decades. There are no accidents here, only (sometimes) unintended consequences.

15 posted on 06/17/2007 1:18:45 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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Said the article, “ - account for shifts in the global distribution of power and the emergence of states such as China and India.”

Say I, “What shift in global distribution of power?” The USA is still the overwhelming power on earth.

China has how many nuclear carriers, subs, etc?

India “ “ “ “ “ “ “?

The only real power shifting is when we deploy our forces.

;-)


16 posted on 06/17/2007 1:24:13 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principle)
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To: cherry
anybody else worried that our hard earned 401ks and our Iras/roths are going to be taxed so heavily or indexed so heavily that the money will mean nothing at all in coming years..

In order for the Government to meet its current obligations, I can only forsee a heavy inflation cycle or two to devalue the money so the numbers are meaningless.

A few decades ago, $30,000 automobiles and $350,000 houses would have been pretty heady stuff.

(A new Lincoln was 5 grand). Now, the equivalent car is 10+ times that, and today's $350,000 house would have sold then for $20-25,000.

It is happening as I type, the money is worth less in terms of buying necessities. You can buy things cheap now which have no equivalents then, but when you get right down to it, they are consumer goods with a limited (3-5 year) lifespan.

17 posted on 06/17/2007 1:28:18 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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George HW Bush and Bill Clinton share the same credentials in all of these groups such as the CFR and Bilderbergers.

They have much in common, too much.


18 posted on 06/17/2007 1:31:51 PM PDT by dforest (Fighting the new liberal Conservatism. The Left foot in the GOP door.)
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To: fangle
Oh, dear. Anyone desiring to understand how we came to be where we are need only read this article - I do believe the good Professor hit nearly every internationalist talking point in the space of it.

The real difficulty is the tacit assumption that multilateralism has had any particular success in advancing anything at all - security, prosperity, aid in time of disaster - the multilateralist approach is to build institutions, the unilateralist approach is to take action. Building institutions is a laudable pursuit if the objective of international relations is to house and feed a class of professional busybodies and control freaks. What it does for the people who are its ostensible beneficiaries is quite another, and lesser, thing.

What is evolving is not an international system at all, intentions despite. It is a tabula rasa in which countries such as Russia and China (and France and a host of others) act strictly in self-interest while bleating loudly that the United States must not be permitted to do so. Any institutionalism that purports to be international must supply one set of rules and behaviors for all - this is precisely what institutions such as the UN pretend to do and signally, categorically, and completely fail to deliver. Nor is it any particular merit to ensure that the membership of chronically anti-American organizations consists of increasing numbers of anti-American Americans.

Institutions that depend on voluntary participation by their membership and cheat on even-handedness will fail, and they all do so. The rampant anti-Americanism within them is the result of the dictum that their principle calling is to level the playing field by acting consistently against the interest of the most influential member of the moment. The notion that such actions shift power is true; that they shift power from the individual to the institution is patently false. And the other members know it, which explains such absurdities as the "Non-Aligned" movement, which is, of course, anything but.

Were it not for the existence of an international administrative and diplomatic class that seems to have every intention of transforming itself into a ruling class, the obvious lack of success, accountability, and moral sanction would have kicked these institutions into the dustbin of failed ideas long ago. That they survive is a testament to the persistence of this class, a triumph of hope over experience, and a sad proof of the nearly endless credulity of a deluded public.

19 posted on 06/17/2007 1:53:09 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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Meet the new New World Order, same as the old New World Order.


20 posted on 06/17/2007 1:57:06 PM PDT by jpl
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