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Beware The Folksy Fred Factor
The San Francisco Bay Times ^ | November 1, 2007 | Chris Crain

Posted on 11/01/2007 1:27:25 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

That Southern charm may soften the appearance of the actor-senator’s hardened conservative views.

Last month brough the moment in the presidential campaign I’d been dreading. The popular conservative from my home state, fellow Tennessean Fred Thompson, entered the Republican primary.

The pundits and “insiders” have dismissed the actor and former senator even before he declared his candidacy on late-night TV. Some claim he’s a Hollywood lightweight, but I’ve heard that before (Ronald Reagan). Some dismiss him as a Southern simpleton, but I’ve heard that before (George W. Bush). And I’ve even heard some claim he has a wealth of sexual skeletons in his closet, but we’ve all heard that before (Bill Clinton).

I have worried so long about Fred Thompson’s candidacy because he comes off as an authentic Southerner, despite the late-career acting gigs. And that folksy accent, combined with a consistently conservative voting record, is a potent combination.

Thompson is no simpleton either. He was a respected (even feared) Nashville lawyer before he became famous, as I discovered 20 years ago as a cub reporter, when he testily dismissed my attempt at an interview after a court hearing that had gone poorly for him.

He showed off those smarts and his homespun charm in his first week of campaigning, when he carefully threaded the needle on social issues, including the minefield of abortion and gay marriage.

Don’t underestimate the power of that “aww shucks” charm. Americans have proven themselves particularly prone to seduction by it, from Jimmy Carter to Clinton to the current White House occupant. The accent is so potent because it alone can settle the nerves of many Southerners, Midwesterners and social conservatives generally that the candidate is, at some level, “one of them.”

He knows how to thread the needle on gay issues, too. On an early campaign stop in Sioux City, Iowa, a gray-haired gentleman said, “My question is what society’s position should be on deviancy, including homosexuality?”

Thompson didn’t miss a beat, giving conservatives the right positions without off-putting moderates.

“I’m not going to pass judgment on several million of my fellow citizens. Anybody that knows me knows how I feel about the importance of a family … of traditional marriage,” he said. “It’s the thing I want for my children. But it goes back to the unity we were talking about. As president of the United States one should not go out of their way to castigate or pass judgment publicly on a large segment of people.”

In truth, a President Thompson would be an unmitigated disaster on gay issues. He’s on record as opposed to even basic protections like employment non-discrimination and hate crime laws. He did refuse to vote for a marriage amendment to the U.S. Constitution on federalist grounds, but he showed off those Matlock-like lawyerly wiles this week with an alternative proposal that is even scarier because it’s more likely to be adopted.

Thompson has proposed an alternative amendment, constitutionalizing the part of the Defense of Marriage Act that allows one state to refuse legal recognition of marriage licenses issued by another state to same-sex couples.

For good measure, his proposal would also prohibit the courts from requiring a state to marry gay couples until a law to that effect has been passed by the state legislature. As if there were any doubt, Thompson made clear to a “reporter” from Pat Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting Network that his real aim was to make it as unlikely as possible for gay marriage to be permitted anywhere without violating the principle that the issue is one for the states to decide.

“The other approach has been tried in Congress,” Thompson reminded CBN viewers. “Let’s fashion something that will cure the problem, that will stop the problem in its tracks while still saying if some state wants to come along through their legislature and do something different, let them answer to their own people. And I got a feeling they won’t be in the legislature that much longer.”

In case you didn’t catch that, we’re “the problem” in that scenario.

Thompson ignores the evidence on the politics of gay marriage. Pro-marriage legislators in Massachusetts have done much better at the polls than opponents. He’s flat wrong that no legislature has enacted gay marriage legislation, since California has twice. But the measure was vetoed the first time and likely will again by Governor Schwarzenegger.

In New York the situation is reversed, as Gov. Elliott Spitzer is pro-marriage and even got the measure through half the legislature in June. In New Jersey, Gov. Jon Corzine said this week marriage is almost inevitable, albeit after the ‘08 elections. In the District of Columbia, the mayor and a majority of the city council are already on record favoring gay marriage, but have been given temporary political cover for dodging the issue by a terrified old-school gay activist group.

The point is that gay marriage is inevitable in other states, whether by popular means or by legal challenge, including prominent suits pending in Iowa, Maryland and California. If Fred Thompson can “aww shucks” his way to the White House and gets his constitutionalized DOMA, we’ll be saddled for a generation with a patchwork of states where gays can marry, and then lose all legal protection when they cross the wrong state lines.


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Boo-hoo!! Fred's a conservative!!
1 posted on 11/01/2007 1:27:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; RockinRight

Looks like the faggots don’t like Fred either. Another check mark for him.


2 posted on 11/01/2007 1:29:46 PM PDT by nuke rocketeer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
In case you didn’t catch that, we’re “the problem” in that scenario.
No you're not, you blockhead -- one state's forcing same-sex marriage on all the others is the problem.
3 posted on 11/01/2007 1:33:49 PM PDT by eastsider
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think we could use more gay-written, liberal articles like this one published all over mid-America. Fred’s the man!


4 posted on 11/01/2007 1:34:01 PM PDT by John Valentine
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This attack article is the single best endorsement of Fred that I have ever read!


5 posted on 11/01/2007 1:34:18 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love Fred’s accent, and I’m from New England. I also like his slow speech. We talk too fast up here. Maybe it’s the cold.


6 posted on 11/01/2007 1:34:54 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone with a valid “Lucianne” ID should go post it over there.

I got kicked off some time ago (presumably because I openly scorned their chosen candidate, Guliani).


7 posted on 11/01/2007 1:35:54 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Fred Thompson)
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If everyone backing Fred gave $100 every time a columnist used the words "folksy" or "lazy" to describe Senator Thompson, he'd have more money than Hillary & Obama combined!!

Fred08 - Contribute Now

8 posted on 11/01/2007 1:39:04 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good post. One of the best ways to advocate for Fred, Rudy, or Mitt is to post moonbat articles like this that denounce the particular candidate.


9 posted on 11/01/2007 1:41:08 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Chris Crain: “That big Fred-man is scary!” *swish*


10 posted on 11/01/2007 1:41:21 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (...."We're the govt, and we're here to hurt."....)
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I've said it before and I will say it again - NOTHING gets me more excited about candidates than pieces such as these written by the political opposition.

Reading some bought and sold true believer extol the intelligence and conservative credentials of a candidate is like listening to my own echo; reading some liberal douche's expose of how smart, right-wing, and effective a candidate would be - especially in derailing their own agenda - is like sweet sweet music.

Same story with liberal coverage of left-wing Republicans like Huckabee and Giuliani - when I start reading positive reviews on how "wonderful and moderate" certain candidates are ("for a Republican"), it sets off much louder alarms than, say, negativity from the pens of even my staunchest idealogical allies.

11 posted on 11/01/2007 1:41:42 PM PDT by M203M4 (The Tancredo, Thompson, and Hunter wing of the party - preventing the Rs from Whigging out.)
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The author is a fag.

Fags hate Fred.

He must be doing something right.


12 posted on 11/01/2007 1:41:45 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know, I’m not at all upset that FDT scares the crap out of the uber-libs...mainly because THEIR candidate - the shrill beast - scares the crap out of me.

I pray for FDT to be the standard-bearer. He’s 95% of Hunter, but he’s someone with name and face recognition who can raise money, and who isn’t afraid to say whatever he thinks needs to be said (i.e. he’s not PC). Also, the baldness, jowls and bags under his eyes show that he’s a real person, not some plastic everything-to-everyone type. The ordinary citizen can relate to people like him, because he IS them.


13 posted on 11/01/2007 1:41:48 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Ancesthntr

Well said! Thank you!


14 posted on 11/01/2007 1:43:34 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (Your "dirt" on Fred is about as persuasive as a Nancy Pelosi Veteran's Day Speech)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
He did refuse to vote for a marriage amendment to the U.S. Constitution on federalist grounds, but he showed off those Matlock-like lawyerly wiles this week with an alternative proposal that is even scarier because it’s more likely to be adopted. Thompson has proposed an alternative amendment, constitutionalizing the part of the Defense of Marriage Act that allows one state to refuse legal recognition of marriage licenses issued by another state to same-sex couples.

Thompson's alternative is quite consistent with federalism. Dunno why that makes him duplicitous in the columnist's eyes.

15 posted on 11/01/2007 1:46:13 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Global Warming Heretic -- http://agw-heretic.blogspot.com)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Some nice photos of Fred: Sammy's first birthday:


16 posted on 11/01/2007 1:50:25 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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RE: “If everyone backing Fred gave $100 every time a columnist used the words “folksy” or “lazy” to describe Senator Thompson, he’d have more money than Hillary & Obama combined!!”

If anyone gave a dollar every time that happened, that person would quickly reach his contribution limit.


17 posted on 11/01/2007 1:55:21 PM PDT by Gil4 ("There is no room in this country for hyphenated Americanism" - Teddy Roosevelt)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I can't quite swing 100 but there will be another contribution headed to FRed in tomorrow's mail!


Check the tagline folks...Need some FReeper help.
18 posted on 11/01/2007 2:07:28 PM PDT by FlashBack (Need Some FReep Help: Vote for Gene Hinders at www.racingjunk.com Oct.15-Nov.15 2007)
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That Southern charm may soften the appearance of the actor-senator’s hardened conservative views.

LOL! Get over it, degenerate whiners!

19 posted on 11/01/2007 2:12:06 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (America: “the most benign hegemon in history.”—Mark Steyn)
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To: ArrogantBustard

LOL!


20 posted on 11/01/2007 2:17:18 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Pray for, and support our troops(heroes) !! And vote out the RINO's!!)
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