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To: 1234; 50mm; 6SJ7; Abundy; Action-America; af_vet_rr; Aggie Mama; afnamvet; Alexander Rubin; ...
Freeper the invisible hand sent me the following...

Mac ping! oops, sorry.

... and I thank him for the heads up because without it, I might not have read this article. However, the only thing about this article relating to Apple is in the title.

It is much more a FreeRepublic issue that all Freepers should read and understand, so I am going to Ping the Apple Mac list, and several others I maintain. Why? Because it cuts to the very core of the battle we conservatives are waging against the Liberal left of our country.

I have just finished reading this article which I consider one of the most important essays/speeches I have read on the danger that the liberal mindset has put before us... and why all our well researched, well reasoned arguments and attempts at rational discourse are ignored by our opponents.

This is an important speech because it outlines clearly exactly what we conservatives are facing in our opponents. It tells us why FACTS don't matter to them, why REASON doesn't sway them, and it tells us exactly why we are considered EVIL by people who ignorantly promote evil themselves and why they do not know the difference...

In all honesty, I found it a very frightening read... and it left me wondering what we can do to reverse what has already happened.

The lists I am Pinging:

My apologies for using these lists for such a non-list subject related article but the primary characteristic we all have in common on FreeRepublic is that we are Conservatives and need to understand what that means. I believe this article will help.
12 posted on 02/10/2008 1:02:03 AM PST by Swordmaker (We can fix this, but you're gonna need a butter knife, a roll of duct tape, and a car battery.)
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To: Swordmaker

Thank you, Swordmaker. It worked. I read the article. It echoes what I have been saying for a long time. The liberals believe that this country is wrong in its very existence and needs to be brought down. This is what’s ahead if Hillary or Obama is elected.


14 posted on 02/10/2008 2:57:05 AM PST by SlowBoat407 (Just how will wrecking the U.S. economy save the planet?)
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To: Swordmaker

BTTT


15 posted on 02/10/2008 3:05:51 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Swordmaker; Obadiah; Mind-numbed Robot; Zacs Mom; A.Hun; johnny7; The Spirit Of Allegiance; ...
[Even tho] the only thing about this article relating to Apple is in the title . . . I am going to Ping the Apple Mac list, and several others I maintain. Why? Because it cuts to the very core of the battle we conservatives are waging against the Liberal left of our country.
Swordmaker, I find your posts about Macs to be sensible and informative, and I find this article to easily qualify for "Bookmark" significance - and therefore I add my ping to yours. In fact, I went for the full instead of the usual, less-intrusive list - a "maximum effort" ping.

I agree that this is challenging stuff. Here, I'm going to limit my commentary to discussing the ending of the piece:

Liberals very much recognize themselves. I remember watching "Hannity & Colmes," and Sean Hannity said of Nancy Pelosi that she's a San Francisco liberal, and immediately Alan Colmes yelled at him that he was trying to demonize her. How do you demonize someone by stating the facts?

So suddenly they decide, "Okay, people have caught onto us about Liberalism; now let's call ourselves progressive. We won't be progressive in the slightest. It's just a name. It's just an advertising slogan."

. . . because it is up my alley. I have often made the point that journalists call themselves "objective" even tho taking your own objectivity for granted is the very definition of subjectivity. And that journalists call nonjournalists who agree with journalists' own opinion of themselves and the overriding significance of their negative, superficial drivel by positive labels such as "liberal" (which they have pretty much run into the ground) and "progressive" (even though as the author of the piece points out, they actually have nothing to "progress" to). And that when journalists call us - who believe in liberty and therefore in the ability of individuals to make changes in the hope of progress - "conservative," they mean it as a pejorative.

And I have called those usages of words "Newspeak" inversions of meaning. But Sayet's

"It's just an advertising slogan"
is an excellent way of putting it. I expect to be using it. Like all good ideas, it seems obvious in retrospect.

The Market for Conservative-Based News


17 posted on 02/10/2008 4:19:24 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (The Democratic Party is only a front for the political establishment in America - Big Journalism.)
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Thanks to Swordmaker for a good ping.

Maybe this explains the appeal of Obama. He makes people feel good--that they don't have to fight. He makes them think that John Lennon's Imagine world is just around the corner.

He will be an enormously difficult candidate to fight as he has learned how to manipulate this particular strain of thinking. Every attempt to "discriminate" between Obama and McCain will be met with the response that the speaker is picking a fight and fighting is bad. Look at how hard a time HRC is having attacking him. And look at his responses. HRC punches. He replies in sorrow that she just punched him and in't that sad?

Of course, that's what elections are. Two sides pick a fight and ask people to discriminate between candidates. So we may be having our first truly post-modern election--especially given the high level of agreement between the two candidates on most issues. The election will end up being about not-fighting. Any issue that makes people uncomfortable--illegal immigration, abortion--will just disappear.

As an aside, that's also why so many--even on FR--get so angry when abortion protesters show pictures of aborted babies. It poses the issue of right and wrong in a way that cannot be ignored and places the relativist in severe mental contradiction. What they see is evil. They know it. But that forces them to discriminate whether they like it or not--to call evil by its name. And on some deep, gut level, they know that doing so is evil. So instead of having an epiphany, they attack the person who forced them into this uncomfortable situation.

30 posted on 02/10/2008 7:08:46 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Swordmaker

Good Ping SM. You can extend the Liberal thinking to the open borders mindset. When there is a incident greater than 9/11 against us from this illegal invasion only then will they see their folly...


34 posted on 02/10/2008 7:39:46 AM PST by tubebender
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To: Swordmaker
and it left me wondering what we can do to reverse what has already happened.( Swordmaker)
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There is still time, but not much.
The Liberal/Marxists control the government schools. Freedom will not survive if the Marxists succeed in indoctrinating the next generation of voters!

Wintertime

The following is a repost of post #29:
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The Marxists understood that they had to gain control of education. Conservatives ( Christian and non-Christian) must do the same. How?

Solution ( 2 things):

1) Conservatives ( Christian and non-Christian) must set up private scholarship foundations to grant private vouchers to private schools that uphold and support constitutional, free market, and Judeo Christian belief.

If Harvard can have a $35 BILLION dollar endowment, and universities across this nation similar endowments in the BILLIONS, then Conservatives **could** do this for K-12 education.

**Every** child in America **could** have access to the best education ever seen since the dawn of humankind, **if** conservatives **wanted**. In fact, we could do it for every child in the world. We are that rich as a nation!

These foundations would inspect, certify, and test. Not only could they provide vouchers to individual children, but they could also fund individual teachers who could set up one room school houses, dame schools, micro-schools, and virtual schools.

2) Conservatives must organize a massive school tax revolt that would shut down government K-12 education.

39 posted on 02/10/2008 7:58:55 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Swordmaker
I just printed the Heritage Evan Sayet article out. Looks like a great read after scaning a little.

Thanks for the lead. I'm not on your ping list - please put me on if you have one. Thanks.

41 posted on 02/10/2008 8:04:25 AM PST by HardStarboard (Take No Prisoners - We're Out Of Qurans)
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To: Swordmaker

Thanks for the ping!


67 posted on 02/10/2008 10:06:38 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Swordmaker
It's not a true story, but it helps crystallize my thinking that brought me to become a conservative.
Hey, I was born this way. :')
69 posted on 02/10/2008 10:44:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, February 10, 2008)
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To: Swordmaker

Thank you so much for pinging the Shroud list. This is an outstanding read, and one I would otherwise have missed.


70 posted on 02/10/2008 10:46:29 AM PST by lonevoice (John McCain was a Kinoki foot pad in the Reagan Revolution)
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To: Swordmaker
> ...the only thing about this article relating to Apple is in the title...

Gee, and here I thought immediately that, New York City Jewish liberal and all, the author clearly meant "The Big Apple", i.e. New York City.

Regurgitation is not what comes to mind when I think Apple Computers. But it is, when I think of NYC. I'm from Upstate NY, and they could take NYC and slice it right the hell off and make it another state and I wouldn't mind. My taxes support those city rats.... grrr-rr.

But thanks for the ping! Great article.

91 posted on 02/10/2008 1:53:34 PM PST by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Swordmaker
The Electric Universe List

What's the topic of this list? 

92 posted on 02/10/2008 1:54:19 PM PST by zeugma (McCain, if you want to be sold out for a day on TV.)
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