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Mom on trial for leaving child in car
UPI ^ | 03/12/08 | UPI

Posted on 03/12/2008 2:02:10 PM PDT by #1CTYankee

CHICAGO, March 12 (UPI) -- A suburban Chicago woman went on trial for briefly leaving her 2-year-old daughter in a locked car in order to put money in a Salvation Army kettle.

Treffly Coyne of Tinley Park faces up to a year in jail and a $2,500 fine if a Cook County Court finds her guilty of child endangerment and obstruction of justice, The Tinley Park Star reported Wednesday.

Coyne drove her three daughters and a neighbor's child to a nearby Wal-Mart one evening in order to donate money to the Salvation Army.

Her 2-year-old daughter had fallen asleep on the ride so Coyne left her in the locked car while she and the other children deposited money in a kettle just 30 feet away. Minutes later she was arrested.

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The Nanny State strikes again.
1 posted on 03/12/2008 2:02:10 PM PDT by #1CTYankee
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To: #1CTYankee

Already posted twice.


2 posted on 03/12/2008 2:05:16 PM PDT by rednesss (Fred Thompson - 2008)
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To: #1CTYankee

Like they don’t have anything better to do? I hope the jury sends a message back to the judge admonishing the prosecutor for wasting their time with an instantaneous not guilty verdict laden with sarcasm.


3 posted on 03/12/2008 2:06:31 PM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: #1CTYankee
You are not allowed to abandon a child in an automobile.

When you start negotiating haow many feet away you can be, how much time you can spend, etc. it becomes meaningless.

If the court finds that her actions were not criminal it can acquit her. If it finds that her actions, while in breach of law were not sufficiently dangerous to warrant serious punishment, it can suspend the sentence or give her probation.

4 posted on 03/12/2008 2:08:08 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: wideawake

It appears to me that the child was continuously supervised during the 30-ft walk to and from the car. Too crazy to comment on.


5 posted on 03/12/2008 2:10:16 PM PDT by DallasDeb ((a.k.a. USAFA2006Mom!))
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To: DallasDeb
It appears to me that the child was continuously supervised during the 30-ft walk to and from the car.

Neither you nor I was there.

6 posted on 03/12/2008 2:12:33 PM PDT by wideawake (Why is it that those who call themselves Constitutionalists know the least about the Constitution?)
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To: rednesss

With 100 + replies

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1984526/posts


7 posted on 03/12/2008 2:13:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: DallasDeb; #1CTYankee
It appears to me that the child was continuously supervised during the 30-ft walk to and from the car

Exactly. My house is wider than that - and I have a small 1,000 sq ft house.

That is NOT abandonment -

#1CTYankee posted:

You are not allowed to abandon a child in an automobile. When you start negotiating haow many feet away you can be, how much time you can spend, etc. it becomes meaningless.

By #1CTYankee's criteria, you would need to have your children on a leash or carry them in a backpack until they're school age... to be safe from arrest...because, otherwise, the distance to constitute 'abandonment' is totally the prerogative of the officer on scene. That would be a scary premise...

8 posted on 03/12/2008 2:20:47 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (",,,but you can't fool all of the people all the time" LINCOLN)
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To: wideawake

Unfortunately, the three other little girls, horrified to see their mother arrested, were not taken into protective custody. They were completely ignored by the Crestwood Police and walked away terrified, crying and left on their own.

The police weren’t watching the kids either after they arrested the mom , using your logic (Neither you nor I was there ) the police need to be arrested too...


9 posted on 03/12/2008 2:24:54 PM PDT by DvdMom ( Drew Peterson Belongs In Jail Along With Nifong)
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To: #1CTYankee
In the immortal words of Mark Twain:

“Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a Cook County prosecutor. But I repeat myself.”
10 posted on 03/12/2008 2:29:24 PM PDT by microgood
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To: #1CTYankee
The KGB and the SS are at work. But in Chicago they allow killer terrorist (William Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn) to teach in their universities and sit on the board of the ABA and the ACLU. So what is the matter?
11 posted on 03/12/2008 2:31:20 PM PDT by YOUGOTIT (The Greatest Threat to our Security is the US Senate)
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To: wideawake
"You are not allowed to abandon a child in an automobile."

I remember way back when, when spoken or written words meant what they were intended to mean from the start. Today people abuse terms consistently, to make a particular thing or event seem better or worse than it was. This of course is a gross form of dishonesty and deceipt.

"Abandoned" is when a mother drops her baby off on a church stairway and screws off somewhere to parts unknown. "Abandoned" is when a young mother gives birth to her child in a public bathroom and throws it in the trash can. A mother who is standing only about 12 steps, (30 feet), from her daughter, who is in clear sight, safely locked in the car and close enough for the mother to give her any attention she may suddenly need, has not been abandoned.

This article shows just how far the state has gone to take the place of parents, and to step on peoples' rights in the name of "it's for the good of the chiiiildren". Stomping on the rights of good, responsible citizens always begins in the name of some alleged "good". Such as when Hitler began rounding up Jews because "they were destroying the economy". Or when Stalin began oppressing and murdering the supposed State's enemies in the name of "law and order". Americans are fast losing their rights and freedoms to the state and this article is a shining example of that.

Unfortunately, judging by the apparent intellectual superficiality of many Americans today it will not be very long before we all start looking around, wide eyed, and wondering just how the f--- we allowed our government to strip us of our beloved freedoms. Hell, I'm already wondering that, who knows what tomorrow is going to bring? Maybe they'll begin arresting mothers who are five steps away from their child as they walk around the car to open the trunk for the stroller.

12 posted on 03/12/2008 2:34:19 PM PDT by houstonman58 ("When the Son of Man returns, will there be any faith left on earth, think ye"?)
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To: #1CTYankee

The article doesn’t say what month this happened. Being Chicago, was there a danger that the child would cook to death or freeze?


13 posted on 03/12/2008 2:37:14 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: wideawake
Most police forces are over-run with low-grade morons sporting huge chips on their shoulders due to all the years of bullying that they endured as losers in high school.

The gun and badge compensate well for the tiny penis, though, don'tcha think?

Here is a link to an article about a New London man who was refused an interview with the police department there because he scored to high on their pre-employment test. That's right kids, police departments want ignorant buffoons who follow orders without questions. What a world.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9502E5D7103CF93AA2575AC0A96F958260

14 posted on 03/12/2008 2:40:28 PM PDT by FroedrickVonFreepenstein
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On Dec. 8 Coyne decided to drive to Wal-Mart in the Chicago suburb of Crestwood so her children and a young friend could donate the coins they’d collected at her husband’s office.

Even as she buckled 2-year-old Phoebe into the car, the girl was asleep. When Coyne arrived at the store, she found a spot to park in a loading zone, right behind someone tying a Christmas tree onto a car.

“It’s sleeting out, it’s not pleasant, I don’t want to disturb her, wake her up,” Coyne said this week. “It was safer to leave her in the safety and warmth of an alarmed car than take her.”

So Coyne switched on the emergency flashers, locked the car, activated the alarm and walked the other children to the bell ringer.

She snapped a few pictures of the girls donating money and headed back to the car. But a community service officer blocked her way.

“She was on a tirade, she was yelling at me,” Coyne said. The officer, Coyne said, didn’t want to hear about how close Coyne was, how she never set foot inside the store and was just there to let the kids donate money, or how she could always see her car.


15 posted on 03/12/2008 2:54:07 PM PDT by DvdMom ( Drew Peterson Belongs In Jail Along With Nifong)
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To: DvdMom

WTF is a “community service officer?” Is that the same as a police officer? Or is it some kind of rent-a-cop?


16 posted on 03/12/2008 2:58:36 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot (No better friend, no worse enemy)
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To: houstonman58

Thank you for an excellent comment— been having the same thoughts alot lately.


17 posted on 03/12/2008 3:02:41 PM PDT by gibsosa
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To: wideawake
If the court finds that her actions were not criminal it can acquit her. If it finds that her actions, while in breach of law were not sufficiently dangerous to warrant serious punishment, it can suspend the sentence or give her probation.

Search the other threads on this subject.

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The 36-year-old suburban mother is preparing to go on trial Thursday on misdemeanor charges of child endangerment and obstructing a peace officer. If convicted, she could be sentenced to a year in jail and fined $2,500, even though child welfare workers found no credible evidence of abuse or neglect.

So this lady is arrested for what? There is no evidence?

So she should go though HELL because some CSO (community service officer) is a moron?

18 posted on 03/12/2008 3:13:23 PM PDT by Popman (Gold Standard: Trying to squeeze a 50 lb economy back into a 5 lb bag)
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To: wideawake
You are not allowed to abandon a child in an automobile.

Very true, but this mother didn't abandon her child. She was 30 feet away.

19 posted on 03/12/2008 3:16:15 PM PDT by Popman (Gold Standard: Trying to squeeze a 50 lb economy back into a 5 lb bag)
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To: DvdMom
The police need to be arrested too...

Exactly!!!!!

I'm sick and tired of these do gooders who dictate to people who can think for themselves.
I can't wait for the trial, hope it costs the city plenty.
Hope some good lawyer will defend her pro bono.

20 posted on 03/12/2008 3:19:51 PM PDT by lula ( Islam IS the Anti-Christ)
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