Posted on 03/24/2008 10:16:51 AM PDT by NYer
“God Bless Magdi Allam.”
He has.
Cliff? Cliff Clavin, is that you?
I enjoyed your comment and concur. While the church has done away with its past abusive ways, it has also done away with many positive theological aspects, particularly reverence for angels and worship of the Divine Mother. Then there is the unfortunate infiltration of leftist clergy in many of central and south American churches, and some in the U.S. Then the fact that many masses have become folk cumbaya sing-a-longs. So quite amamzing that in relation to Islam, the church is a beacon of light.
The courage this man displays is just beyond belief. May God keep him safe.
Thank you all for your insightful comments. Like many of you, I too have pondered this at great length. The Pope is the only one today who has challenged the Muslims to come to the table for a frank discussion. Those meetings will begin shortly. This pope is not a showman and must have carefully weighed the impact of Allam's Baptism on worldwide television.
The real question is how did Magdi Allam arrive at this faith conversion. When asked that by a group of reporters, he replied:
"Undoubtedly the most extraordinary and significant encounter in the decision to convert was that with Pope Benedict XVI,'' Allam said. He said he admired the pope for his skill in laying out the relationship "between faith and reason as the basis of authentic religion and human civilization.''
It should be interesting to see how the conferences with the 142 Muslim clerics progress. If not Pope Benedict XVI, who?
The mention of Islam gives me an itchy trigger finger.
“Linking religions to violence in public can only be done when one’s own religion has a spotless record of peace and love. Of course, the catholic church has an impeccable past of religious tolerance.
What a crock. By your twisted logic someone who has sinned, and has admitted and confessed to those sins, and has sought and received reconciliation (forgiveness), can not ever venture an opinion on those sins, and how they were wrong. Thankfully, God is not closed minded like you are.
Sure, but not currently. Currrently the violence is coming out of Islam, not the Roman Church. We have to deal with the present, not the past.
Besides, during all the time that Christianity had its violent moments, when was Islam ever peaceful?
...and those who support the war should go and fight it?
Don’t believe the lies about the Crusades and the Inquisition; one was defensive, the other much less violent than we have been led to believe.
Wonderful news! May God protect him from his former brethren!
> 1834
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> That was the year the Spanish Inquisition was finally disbanded.
So roughly one hundred years before the rise of Hitler, or a mere sixty years after the American Revolution.
Not much will have changed in the Islamic world since 1834. The same can’t be said for our Civilization.
> I don’t understand why this had to be done in the public eye. What is to gain from that?
My initial reaction to this was, “Well, duuuhhhhhhh....” Then I thought about it quite a bit harder, and decided that my first reaction was probably correct.
So a bunch of turd-worlders are killing people and this reflects on Roman Catholicism exactly how? Did the Pope issue an Encyclical authorizing this? No, he did not. Did Mexico’s Cardinal issue an Encyclical authorizing this? No, he did not. Did a bunch of communist rebels in Chiapas murder people under the color of religion? Yes, they did.
Mexico isn’t even a Catholic country anymore! The socialist revolution there in the first part of the 20th century devastated Catholicism there, and most folk north of the border have no idea.
“Linking religions to violence in public can only be done when one’s own religion has a spotless record of peace and love. “
Your argument is specious at best. We are all sinners and strive to accept Christ as our savior and can only try to be better in the eyes of God. That is why God has given us a path for forgiveness
The cult of Islam has never strived to be better, just to convert, by any means, as many as possible to a cult of abject moral degradation, murder, and subjugation to the cult hierarchy. Nothing more.
I don’t respond to troll posts.
ya....everybody’s gotta keep their mouth shut, cuz nobody’s perfect.....
Nice Logic..../sarc
Benedict: he sure knows how to pope.
I didn’t see any baptism taking place. I see a man in some kind of helmet or something on the left holding something on the head of a guy bent over a bowl or something.
Nice, baseless assertion. In fact, this is about as logic free as I see from most leftists.
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