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Senator Pushes For Cameras On Cop Handguns
WCBSTV ^ | May 12, 2008 | A.P.

Posted on 05/12/2008 5:34:43 PM PDT by Sonny M

ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) ― In a flash, a police officer draws a handgun from its holster. Less than two seconds later, a red laser and bright light shine at whatever is in the gun barrel's path while a mini-camera records it all.

That's how mini-cams on police handguns would work under a proposal gaining support in New York, which would be the first state in the nation to require the technology. State police were briefed on the technology and are reviewing it for a possible pilot program, said Michael Balboni, the state's deputy secretary for public safety.

The device could create a critical visual and audio record of police shootings for use in court, said state Sen. Eric Adams, a Brooklyn Democrat and former police officer. He is drumming up support for testing the cameras with the state police SWAT squad.

Adams said recordings from the $695 cameras couldn't be altered by a police officer and would quell many questions after controversial police shootings, like the deaths in New York City of Amadou Diallo in 1999 and Sean Bell in 2006.

"That's definitely a new thing," said Meredith Mays of the International Association of Chiefs of Police based in Virginia. She said police have known the technology existed, but no state has required it.

Some police departments have put cameras on Tasers in the last couple years, but there is no major national effort by police to seek or block gun cameras at the federal level, according to the National Association of Police Organizations, a major lobbyist.

"We believe the state of New York can lead the country," said Adams, who retired after 21 years as a New York police officer. "There no longer can be a question mark that lingers after shootings."

Adams, who was never involved in a shooting, said the lights on the 5-ounce camera could be turned off if they would expose the officer to danger in a dark area. But the camera and optional audio recorder would remain operating for up to 60 minutes.

He said the images would also help identify suspects who get away. He wants a pilot program that would allow testing by police at shooting ranges. That could lead to a law mandating the gun cameras, he said.

Adams knows many police won't embrace the idea at first. There was no immediate comment from the police department and police officers union in New York City. Mayor Michael Bloomberg's office said it will review any legislation that comes from Adams' effort.

But in Albany, there is growing support.

Republican Sen. Dale Volker of Erie County, a former police officer who would be critical to passing the Democrat-backed bill, already sought funding for a pilot program. But that $300,000 request to test the technology in state police SWAT squads was cut in the budget this spring as part of efforts to close a deficit of about $5 billion.

"You have to understand, particularly in urban areas today, it is not like the old days when if someone was shot you went before a grand jury," said Volker. Today, he said, an officer would also face intense media and community attention.

"It's a different world," he said. "It's not even a matter of right and wrong a lot of times. It's that people decide very often whatever you did was probably wrong."

In the Democrat-led Assembly, Adams and his colleagues in the influential black, Hispanic and Asian caucus like the idea. The gun camera is made by Legend Technologies, based in the Adirondack mountains town of Keesville, N.Y.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: crime; donutwatch; guns; leo; police; technology
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I actually happen to like this idea. I think the whole Sean Bell trial never ever even would have happened if there were camera's on the gun.
1 posted on 05/12/2008 5:34:44 PM PDT by Sonny M
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Coming soon to a gun near you...


2 posted on 05/12/2008 5:36:33 PM PDT by Harpo Speaks (Honk! Honk! Honk! Either it's foggy out, or make that a dozen hard boiled eggs.)
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How is the camera going to record what prompted the officer to pull his gun in the first place?


3 posted on 05/12/2008 5:37:46 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that cops won’t like this idea much. Except to impose it on the public. That they’ll love.


4 posted on 05/12/2008 5:38:17 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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Excellent point!


5 posted on 05/12/2008 5:40:57 PM PDT by panaxanax (Writing in Duncan Hunter 2008!)
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You're absolutely right...It's like cutting up a picture.

What you see is a man with a knife....What you don't see is that he's standing at a butcher block in a butcher shop.

6 posted on 05/12/2008 5:42:55 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ("The Cracker" will be renamed "The Crapper")
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To: Michael.SF.
How is the camera going to record what prompted the officer to pull his gun in the first place?

Since its split seconds, whatever prompted the cop to pull his gun, will still be in view when his gun is pulled, i.e. the situation isn't going to change in 1/10th of a second.

That said, I talked to one of my friends who is a cop, he kind of likes the idea, but his only concern is that other cops may now pull their guns faster or be quicker to draw, just to get the recording started.

7 posted on 05/12/2008 5:44:12 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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8 posted on 05/12/2008 5:44:19 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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I’m going to go out on a limb here and say that cops won’t like this idea much. Except to impose it on the public. That they’ll love.

I already talked to one of my friends who is a cop, he likes the idea, but figures it'll be a mixed bag, some cops will like it, some won't.

Kind of how some cops feel about the dashboard camera's in different parts of the country.

9 posted on 05/12/2008 5:46:19 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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All this will give you is a guns eye view of the scene instead of the cops view of the scene. Two very different things that would only serve to confuse an investigation.


10 posted on 05/12/2008 5:46:19 PM PDT by Dreagon
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Nothing like giving the perp a nice bright target to hit - remember “3 on a match” from WWII ???
11 posted on 05/12/2008 5:49:52 PM PDT by xcamel (Forget the past and you're doomed to repeat it.)
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From this page:

Features:
Auto-On™ technology: electronically senses removal from holster for instant activation
State of the art MPEG4 digital imaging technology: VGA video and sound at 30 frames per second
Automatic image capture: takes 3.2 megapixel digital photographs upon shot recoil
Digital camera: takes 3.2 megapixel digital photographs upon press of shutter button
Tactical Illuminator: can be preset to auto-activate upon removal from holster
Laser targeting: can be preset to auto-activate upon removal from holster
Rechargeable lithium polymer battery: integrated state of the art power management allows for over one week in standby
Password protected software: encrypted software prevents evidence tampering
Specifications:
Memory: 512MB (40-60 minute video)
Video/Audio: MPEG4, 30 frames/sec
Stills: 3.2 megapixel JPEG format
File download rate: 12 Mbps via USB 1.1
Power: powers up in <1 second
Charging time: 3 hours
Battery life:
 
Camera only ON: >5 hours
Camera/flash/laser ON: 2 hours
Standby: 500 hours
Tactical illuminator: 120 lumens @ 3 meters
Laser targeting: Class III red, elevation and windage adjustments

12 posted on 05/12/2008 5:51:29 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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You like this idea? I don't, I think it's a terrible idea that undermines police authority at the expense of public saftey. Which is why:

In the Democrat-led Assembly, Adams and his colleagues in the influential black, Hispanic and Asian caucus like the idea.

13 posted on 05/12/2008 5:52:59 PM PDT by Baladas (M)
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Since its split seconds, whatever prompted the cop to pull his gun, will still be in view when his gun is pulled, i.e. the situation isn't going to change in 1/10th of a second.

I'm on the fence on this one. In some cases it could prove the cop was right and in others it may prove him wrong. How many times have we watched a replay in sports, where the call is in dispute? Three camera's three angles and it is still too close to call.

14 posted on 05/12/2008 5:53:50 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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It's proprietary technology and there's only one source. I don't like that idea.
15 posted on 05/12/2008 5:58:30 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at http://www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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bookmark


16 posted on 05/12/2008 5:59:38 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Ron_Paul_2008.htm)
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It would have been more informative to point out that Eric Adams has made a reputation of being anti-police.


17 posted on 05/12/2008 6:12:00 PM PDT by ardara
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To: Michael.SF.
It can't. We'll end up with disputes and the many of our LEO’s will start to look like the Borg.
18 posted on 05/12/2008 6:15:08 PM PDT by allmost
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I have mixed views on this. I think there are some benefits to this, but I'm concerned about this being required on all guns someday. I also am concerned if it affects the functions of the gun making it unsafe for all of us. How would the camera work?
19 posted on 05/12/2008 6:20:08 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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Why not have cops wear helmet cams and record their entire day?


20 posted on 05/12/2008 6:20:58 PM PDT by Mark was here (The earth is bipolar.)
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