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Senator Pushes For Cameras On Cop Handguns
WCBSTV ^ | May 12, 2008 | A.P.

Posted on 05/12/2008 5:34:43 PM PDT by Sonny M

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To: John Jorsett

That’s going to make for a pretty comfortable holster....NOT!


21 posted on 05/12/2008 6:30:29 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Mark was here

Because you’d see a lot of doughnut shops.


22 posted on 05/12/2008 6:31:05 PM PDT by rivercat (The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. - William Shakespeare)
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To: Baladas
I think it's a terrible idea that undermines police authority at the expense of public saftey.

I don't see how it harms the public safety, but I do know that the "police authority" is under siege from over aggressive prosecutors.

I don't think there would have even been an indictment if there has been camera on those cops guns, you would have see sean bell trying to run them down, and them identifying themselves as cops before finally having to shoot him.

23 posted on 05/12/2008 6:33:48 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Mark was here
Why not have cops wear helmet cams and record their entire day?

The ACLU and civil libertarians would go ballistic then.

Its not a bad idea, but alot of folks would freak saying that its a police state with constant surveillance.

24 posted on 05/12/2008 6:36:22 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: xcamel
Nothing like giving the perp a nice bright target to hit - remember “3 on a match” from WWII ???

Yea, and so did the company, the light can be disabled for that very reason.

25 posted on 05/12/2008 6:37:31 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Dreagon
All this will give you is a guns eye view of the scene instead of the cops view of the scene. Two very different things that would only serve to confuse an investigation.

That would be a nice improvement, NYC basically seems to start thinking a cop shooting is bad until proven so, anything that can help show a good shooting or a bad shooting is better then the "after the facts, lets hang'em" style of investigation done now.

26 posted on 05/12/2008 6:39:38 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Michael.SF.
I'm on the fence on this one. In some cases it could prove the cop was right and in others it may prove him wrong. How many times have we watched a replay in sports, where the call is in dispute? Three camera's three angles and it is still too close to call.

Thats still an improvement.

Nothing is perfect, but the system now, leaves innocent cops vulnerable to being prosecuted due to political pressure with "witnesses" who have no qualms about lying.

27 posted on 05/12/2008 6:41:44 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Darren McCarty
I have mixed views on this. I think there are some benefits to this, but I'm concerned about this being required on all guns someday. I also am concerned if it affects the functions of the gun making it unsafe for all of us. How would the camera work?

When said gun is removed from holster, it starts recording.

I doubt it would ever be on all guns or required, simply because at that point, good ole gov't would probably moved on to gun grabbing already.

Before putting it on the cops guns, they want to do a test program, it looks to me pretty much like the laser sights (which it comes with) so I doubt it affects much of anything either way.

28 posted on 05/12/2008 6:45:50 PM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Sonny M

How about putting cameras on the idiot politicians.


29 posted on 05/12/2008 6:55:39 PM PDT by VideoDoctor
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To: Sonny M

the article says the camera starts 2 seconds after pulling the gun. In an emergency, thats time for two or three shots.


30 posted on 05/12/2008 7:18:05 PM PDT by tickmeister (tickmeister)
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To: dcam
Because you’d see a lot of doughnut shops.

And a lot of cops shooting themselves in the thigh with their own Glocks.

31 posted on 05/12/2008 7:38:29 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Mark was here
Why not have cops wear helmet cams and record their entire day?

Don't look down as you zip up!

Regards,
GtG

32 posted on 05/12/2008 7:49:28 PM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: Michael.SF.

“I’m on the fence on this one. In some cases it could prove the cop was right and in others it may prove him wrong. How many times have we watched a replay in sports, where the call is in dispute? Three camera’s three angles and it is still too close to call.”

Hmmm...sport...use of deadly force...

Yes those two things are exactly alike

/sarc


33 posted on 05/12/2008 8:51:21 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: Sonny M

“Kind of how some cops feel about the dashboard camera’s in different parts of the country.”

Kinda like how some of those cops are now out of a job due to those dash board cameras.


34 posted on 05/12/2008 8:56:16 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: Crim

Wow, did you ever miss the point by a mile.


35 posted on 05/12/2008 9:59:50 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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To: Michael.SF.

Ah..sarcasm is a second language I see...

You point was that sometimes people cant determine an event even when viewing video of it...from three angles...

Yes?

So a camera on a gun isnt going to tell the whole story...

Yes?

Thus my sarcastic reply...

If three cameras are needed in a sports event...how many should we use to document the use of deadly force?

None?


36 posted on 05/12/2008 10:48:29 PM PDT by Crim (Dont frak with the Zeitgeist....)
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To: Crim
Kinda like how some of those cops are now out of a job due to those dash board cameras.

Or kind of like how many cops have fewer worries about being prosecuted for something they didn't do because of said cameras.

37 posted on 05/13/2008 7:42:53 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: VideoDoctor
How about putting cameras on the idiot politicians.

I would love that, then again, anything that would make politicians lives more miserable, I would like.

38 posted on 05/13/2008 7:44:42 AM PDT by Sonny M ("oderint dum metuant")
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To: Crim
The purpose of the cameras extends beyond mere documentation, as the film will be repeatedly analyzed from every possible angle and every possible speed in an effort to help determine guilt or innocence.

I am not convinced that this is the best policy as the film may help in some cases, it may hurt in others.

39 posted on 05/13/2008 2:00:38 PM PDT by Michael.SF.
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