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Immigration and Gang Violence Propel Crusade (Jamiel Shaw)
New York Times ^

Posted on 05/15/2008 5:36:15 PM PDT by Ladycalif

LOS ANGELES — Jamiel Shaw Sr. never gave much thought to the immigration status of gang members in his South Los Angeles neighborhood. With his military wife deployed to Iraq and two sons to raise, there were football practices to manage, shoes to buy, college applications to consider.

But in the two months since his older son, Jamiel Jr., was gunned down by a man the police say is a gang member who was here illegally from Mexico, Mr. Shaw has been able to think of little else.

“I don’t care about illegal people who are working here and taking care of themselves,” Mr. Shaw said. “I just feel I am obligated to target illegal aliens in gangs.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; gangs; illegalimmigration; imigration; immigrantlist; immigration; jamielshaw

1 posted on 05/15/2008 5:36:15 PM PDT by Ladycalif
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To: Ladycalif

Report from the Court:

The preliminary hearing was postponed until June. (18th I think) The Shaw family was there, as were the two new assistant District Attorneys - both men. One is an affable younger guy who looks Indian and the other is a black man who seems very tough. During the discussion, the judge referred to what sounded like “Mr. Guzman.” (Espinoza’s attorney?)

The judge denied a motion to have cameras in the courtroom.

When Pedro’s name was called, about 12 Hispanic people move to the left to get a better look and were smiling and waving at him. This time, the bailiff did not stop them. The girl who was waving and blowing kisses at him was in the back this time.

There were four of us to support the Shaw Family. I was asked by numerous people about the case and Jamiel’s Law.


Join The Shaw Family in Leimert Park On Armed Forces Day to Support Jamiels’s Law.

Date: May 17,2008
Time: Noon
Location: Leimert Park
4395 Leimert Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90008



2 posted on 05/15/2008 5:36:51 PM PDT by Ladycalif (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: Ladycalif

Hey, let’s all vote to throw the illegals out and then see how long it takes for the state Supreme Court to override our vote.


3 posted on 05/15/2008 5:40:54 PM PDT by raptor29
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To: Ladycalif

When the guilty verdict is read, leave the courtroom immediately. The “12 Hispanic people” — probably more — may very well riot at that moment. A squad of armored deputies will then enter the courtroom from a side door as the Judge takes the back door.

I’ve seen it before.


4 posted on 05/15/2008 5:54:27 PM PDT by Unknowing (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: Unknowing; SwinneySwitch; tennteacher; lonewacko_dot_com; radar101; ruination; gubamyster; Czar; ...

ping


5 posted on 05/15/2008 5:58:40 PM PDT by Ladycalif (Free The Texas 3 - Ramos, Compean and Hernandez)
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To: raptor29
Hey, let’s all vote to throw the illegals out and then see how long it takes for the state Supreme Court to override our vote.

I'd wager a lot less time than it took them to throw out our vote to deny illegals state benefits.

6 posted on 05/15/2008 6:12:28 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Ladycalif

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

When you start digging into the numbers the only ones that can be sourced with the feds are the number of American murdered in 2005: 16692
I have seen federal numbers for illegals held in jail ranging from 19.3% to 27% of the federal prison population.

Here's a sampling of USA cities wanted for murder. What you'll see is that in big USA cities like LA or NYC most of the murderers are Hispanic. Unknown are the % of illegals. In smaller cities the FBI will post the nationalities of the murderers. About 25% of the most wanted are illegals wanted for murder. This number agrees with the percentage of illegals incarcerated in federal prisons. +-25%

Pictures of top 10 most wanted in LA. Up until recent stories about crime in LA posted by the LA Times--the pictures included the nationality of the murderers. They were all foreign nationals and mostly Mexican.

Wanted for Murder in New York City.

Chicago wanted for Murder


Philadelphia wanted for murder

San Francisco wanted for Murder


New Orleans wanted for Murder

Pictures of suspects wanted for murder in Washington DC

FBI USA 10 most wanted. (two of 10 are Mexican nationals) Around 40% of the FBI's wanted for murder are Mexican Nationals

There are currently no exact numbers on the number of Americans killed by illegals. Part of the reason is that the government deliberately obscures the number. I talked on the phone with the head of statistics for the US Bureau of Prisons. He said his office wasn't allowed to publish the number of illegal alien murderers. Rather they were forced to put legal and non legal residents in the same category. He said further that most of illegals in the federal prisons were in for drug related charges. Most of the illegals in jail for murder were in the state prisons. I talked to ICE. They put out detailed numbers on illegal child molestors. However, they put out nothing on illegal murderers.

Part of the reason for the silence on the matter is that there is evidence to suggest that most Americans being killed by illegals are black--as is the suggestion in this LA Times Article. Also this article from the LA Times. And here. This makes intuitive sense. We see stories regularly of drug gang killings in Mexico but we don't see those same stories in the USA. The reason we don't see those stories is not because its not happening. Rather we don't see the stories about illegals killing blacks because that kind of story is terribly politically incorrect. The populations being displaced in downtown sanctuary cities especially are American blacks. That means that their criminal elements would be pushed aside by Mexican gangs as well. That's also the story that the wanted for murder posters in all the major cities seems to suggest.

Nevertheless, the pattern of non reporting is starting to break. Discovery Channel has a series called Gangland that mentions ethnic cleasing of blacks by Mexican gangs

Reported Foreign Nationals on Death Row in the U.S.

To look at other USA cities go here http://stlouis.fbi.gov/ and replace stlouis with the city you want.

All that said the true number of criminal aliens is far higher than is revealed by criminal aliens in prisons. Most are simply waived through the courts.DHS Secretary Chertoff, has been quoted as warning that two million people in this country illegally have committed serious crimes. If you check the links you'll notice that its McCain who cites Chertoff. See also here and here Here is more info from Judicial Watch.

However the number of illegals on death row is far lower. Sadly, so many small towns and villages across America have sent their warriors off to war half way across the world only to see communities fill up with illegal aliens.


7 posted on 05/15/2008 8:27:22 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: ckilmer
Too bad computer firewall doesn't work on the border. If they did the country would be well protected since they are already so ubiquitous.
8 posted on 05/16/2008 1:13:48 AM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: Ladycalif

BTT!


9 posted on 05/16/2008 10:27:22 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: AuntB; All

Take a read of article from LA area San Fernando Valley news daily news link:
Special Order 40, Illegal Aliens, and Gangmembers
http://valleynews.com/TheValley/Stories/News/General-News/Story~467433.aspx


10 posted on 05/23/2008 2:28:31 PM PDT by cowboy_code (Note for visitors at Arafat's grave - first dance, THEN pee.)
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