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To: jpl; TrebleRebel; Technogeeb; Scotswife; ZACKandPOOK; Mitchell; shrinkermd

“He has been forensically diagnosed by several top psychiatrists as a sociopathic homicidal killer.”

I’ve been thinking about this one. IN her written application she only mentions Dr. David Irwin, Ivins’ M.D.

But at court she made the above statement. I think there are only two possibilities.

1. She’s lying.

2. The FBI told her that. The FBI told her their “forensic” psychiatrists made that analysis. She should be asked if it was so, and the FBI should be asked if what they told Duley was accurate.


15 posted on 08/05/2008 1:24:53 PM PDT by Shermy (OOOOOOObama where the waffles come sweeping down the plains)
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To: Shermy

This doesn’t sound like a guy who had ever seen weaponized anthrax before - never mind filled an envelope with it:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=93305949

For now they, Ivins’ family and his co-workers are left wondering and in some cases replaying the past. Ellen Byrne, a wife of one of his colleagues, remembers talking to Ivins at a party. It was just after the anthrax had been sent through the mail. She said he told her he was fascinated by how perfect the powder is. “He was sitting there,” Byrne said. “He was leaning over the table and I was on the other side of the table. And he leaned forward and was just really excited at how finely milled the powder was.”She said Ivins gestured with his hands like he was trying to weigh it on a scale. He had long fingers, big knuckles.Ivins excitedly told Byrne: “It couldn’t even be weighed — it just hovered,” Byrne remembers Ivins saying. “That was the word he used — ‘hovered.’ “


19 posted on 08/05/2008 1:44:50 PM PDT by TrebleRebel
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To: Shermy
“He has been forensically diagnosed by several top psychiatrists as a sociopathic homicidal killer.”

I can't imagine any forensic psychiatrist making such a statement about a person who was seemingly functioning at work and with his friendships. This woman, whose training is never given, probably experienced negative transference and did not recognize it.

Dealing with troubling and troubled people requires mastery of your profession as well as common sense, patience and emotional stability.

I don't have the slightest idea whether he is the one mailing anthrax; however, unless he told his therapist that he had, the chain of evidence is only inferential.

28 posted on 08/05/2008 2:38:14 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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