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1 posted on 10/21/2008 10:06:03 AM PDT by BGHater
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Translation: cell company records can be used to keep track of where your cell phone has been (and thus where you likely have been) as well as where you currently are. There is special equipment that can “ping” your cell phone so that law enforcement can find you.


2 posted on 10/21/2008 10:11:38 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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A divorce lawyer's wet dream.
3 posted on 10/21/2008 10:12:33 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans.)
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Surveillance society! Woo-hoo!

Oh.. wait a minute....

4 posted on 10/21/2008 10:16:10 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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5 posted on 10/21/2008 10:25:32 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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Sure would be an easy way to set someone up.


6 posted on 10/21/2008 10:48:04 AM PDT by stuartcr (Election year.....Who we gonna hate, in '08?)
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You don’t have this right to privacy but you can have sex with another man in a public park restroom and then go back to teaching children in school.


7 posted on 10/21/2008 10:50:35 AM PDT by weegee (In honor of Joe the Plumber, at noon, we should all lower our trousers to half mast.)
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Even if laws are passed which prevent warrantless use of GPS tracking by cops, that will not stop crooks like "private detectives" from using them against "enemies" of rich and powerful people, just as they use bugging, wiretapping, and many other forms of illegal surveillance and harassment. Those people don't obey the law anyway.

Does anyone know a really reliable way of finding or defeating these devices? I'm pretty sure this technology is being used against me.

8 posted on 10/21/2008 10:51:46 AM PDT by hellbender
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We're still figuring out -- the courts are -- about how to handle GPS data."

It isn't for the courts to "figure out". It is for the LEGISLATURE to establish and the courts to determine if the laws established are constitutional.

Damn activist judges serving the police state.

9 posted on 10/21/2008 10:52:17 AM PDT by weegee (In honor of Joe the Plumber, at noon, we should all lower our trousers to half mast.)
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So you have an absolute right to privacy concerning a 13 year old “woman’s” pregnancy & abortion decision; but none as to your phone calls?


10 posted on 10/21/2008 10:52:35 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (The Great Obamanation of Desolation, attempting to sit in the Oval Office, where he ought not..)
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One argument that might be decisive in either direction is that “a cell phone is not a person”.

That is, that as with the RIAA’s efforts to sue people based on their IP number, if their system is open WIFI, there is no way to associate that IP with a particular computer, much less a human user. (N.B. Google’s new “Chrome” browser *does* try to establish that a particular computer, at least, is the one that is surfing, so it takes away some of this anonymity.)

However, the flip side of the argument is that the police do not need a warrant to track *property*, only people. This, rather lame argument is the justification of property forfeiture in drug cases, even if no person is arrested.

Clearly, tracking people without probable cause is a violation of the 4th Amendment, so the bottom line is will the court be honest, or use convoluted arguments to justify this violation.


11 posted on 10/21/2008 10:53:58 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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Well, this could bring back the pay phone. Seriously, did anybody doubt that the GPS tracking capability in the more recent cell phones wouldn't be used by the government to track the "little people"?

I don't agree with it, but it seems that big brother wants to keep tabs on us. It's for the children, you know....

20 posted on 10/21/2008 5:00:09 PM PDT by meyer (We are all Joe the Plumber)
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