[pissant]

The snowball grows.....

[penelopesire]

Ping the Posse!

Haven’t read it yet but it sounds like it’s gonna be good!

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Pissant - why does the long-form still say “Certificate of Live Birth?”

[Principled]

From article:

A close examination of the birth certificates issued by Kapi’olani to the Nordyke twins shows the registration number precedes the number given Obama, even though the future president was born a day earlier.

[raybbr]

Meanwhile, an image of an apparently fraudulent Kenyan certificate of birth circulated on the Web today from an unknown source. It alleged Obama was born in Mombasa. But a contributor at FreeRepublic.com debunked it, declaring "Busted!"

[detective]

Obama’s got his people preparing a forgery of one of those right now.

[Frantzie]

CNN said this story was dead. LOL!

Lou Dobbs (bless this patriot) did not get the memo.

[freedomconservationist]

Just so that nobody gets confused: the order of the certificates means nothing. The numbers are only there for unique identification. One stack of them would be at one hospital or office, and another would be at another hospital or office, meaning that each would turn in the certificates out of order. Surely there are some missing as well.

However, the birth certificate, if produced, still wouldn’t resolve allegations that his citizenship was renounced.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Clearing the Smoke on Obama’s Eligibility: An Intelligence Investigator’s June 10 Report

—snippet—

In 1961 if a 17 year old American girl gave birth in a foreign country to a child whose father was not an American citizen, that child had no right to any American citizenship, let alone the “natural born” citizenship that qualifies someone for the Presidency under Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution.

“ 7 FAM 1133.2-2 Original Provisions and Amendments to Section 301

(CT:CON-204; 11-01-2007)

“a. Section 301 as Effective on December 24, 1952: When enacted in 1952, section 301 required a U.S. citizen married to an alien to have been physically present in the United States for ten years, including five after reaching the age of fourteen, to transmit citizenship to foreign-born children. The ten-year transmission requirement remained in effect from 12:01 a.m. EDT December 24, 1952, through midnight November 13, 1986, and still is applicable to persons born during that period.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/?page_id=2697

[concerned about politics]

The Nordykes' certificates include information missing from the short-form document for Obama published online, including the name of the hospital, the name of the attending physician, name and address of the parents, the race of the parents and the race of the baby.

§338-20.5 Adoption; foreign born persons.

(a) The department of health shall establish a Hawaii certificate of birth for a person born in a foreign country and for whom a final decree of adoption has been entered in a court of competent jurisdiction in Hawaii, when it receives the following:

(1) A properly certified copy of the adoption decree, or certified abstract thereof on a form approved by the department; and

(2) A copy of any investigatory report and recommendation which may have been prepared by the director of social services; and

(3) A report on a form to be approved by the department of health setting forth the following:

(A) Date of assumption of custody;

(B) Sex;

(C) Color or race;

(D) Approximate age of child;

(E) Name and address of the person or persons adopting said child;

(F) Name given to child by adoptive parent or parents;

(G) True or probable country of birth.

The true or probable country of birth shall be known as the place of birth, and the date of birth shall be determined by approximation. This report shall constitute an original certificate of birth; and

(4) A request that a new certificate of birth be established.

(b) After preparation of the new certificate of birth in the new name of the adopted person, the department of health shall seal and file the certified copy of the adoptive decree, the investigatory report and recommendation of the director of human services if any, the report constituting the original certificate of birth, and the request for a new certificate of birth. The sealed documents may be opened by the department only by an order of a court of record or when requested in accordance with section 578-14.5 or 578-15. The new certificate of birth shall show the true or probable foreign country of birth, and that the certificate is not evidence of United States citizenship for the child for whom it is issued or for the adoptive parents. [L 1979, c 203, §3; am L 1990, c 338, §3]

This certificate is a short form.

[kellynla]

Just waiting for the ruling by a certain U.S. District judge(a Marine) in Santa Ana, CA in “Cook vs. Obama”

“Mr. Presdent, I need to see your Birth Certificate”

[BP2]

Name	Location of Birth	Birth Cert #	Date/Time Born
Barack Hussein Obama II	Kapiolani Medical Center	151-61-10641	Aug. 4, 1961 7:24 pm
Susan Elizabeth Nordyke	Kapiolani Medical Center	151-61-10637	Aug. 5, 1961 2:12 pm
Gretchen Carter Nordyke	Kapiolani Medical Center	151-61-10638	Aug. 5, 1961 2:17 pm

[musicman]

Your hard work concerning this "Obamassiah BC Mystery" is very much appreciated!!

I posted this last fall, and also on another thread about 30 minutes ago. I am posting it once more for you and any other FReeper who hasn't seen it, hoping it might be some sort of "CLUE".

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Last fall when this subject came up on FR, I noticed something on the "alleged REAL Obamassiah BC. It is circled in red on the pic below:

Not being an expert at Photoshop (like whoever TRIED to sell the above as a REAL doc) I had my wife do the red circle on the above doc, and then enlarge the area, and came up with this:

..which appeared like a date stamped on the back that "bled through". By "flipping" the image, enlarging and darkening it somewhat, it revealed this:

I never did find out from any Freeper if it was a "clue" of any kind concerning the "Obamassiah BC Mystery".

I wonder if the date would help at all as far as finding out who filed for the doc, or who did the "transaction" at work that day?

Also, cronologically, what was happening with Obamassiah at that time?

[spacejunkie01]

Satin Doll posted on another thread that she read earlier that Obama’s newspaper announcement was actually spliced over the Nordyke’s announcement.

Anyone else recall reading that?

Also, I pointed out earlier that perhaps it was the Nordyke TRIPLETS, not twins, the third one died, and Obama bought the registry # and the place in the announcement from them for big bucks, no doubt.

[WilliamofCarmichael]

"The middle figure in Obama's purported registration also is different than the Nordykes'. Obama's is 1961, indicating the year, while the Nordykes' is merely 61."

That is suspicious.

The four-digit year IMO was typed in by someone who "wasn't there." Obama's registration number could be correct but whoever put it on the COLB had zero experience with the way things were until 1990s. (Yes, there were exceptions as systems where modified/developed after hardware capacity increased and 2000 approached.)

The two-digit year was the standard owing to 80-column punch cards, second and third generation computers. I worked on a RCA301 for example that had 10,000 bytes of memory. We just could not afford the two extra bytes -- and there was just on will or money to expand dates as the hardware capacity grew -- thus the Y2K panic.

So Obama's COLB may have the correct information but IMO it's not an authentic Hawaiian government document if it has that four-digit year in the registration number.

[shield]

Looks like the forgery has now surfaced.

[Tennessee Nana]

Why are the hospital records not in play ???

[Eye of Unk]

I love it when a plan comes together.

[bjcintennessee]

PIng

[mojo114]

FYI for the numbers. Twins born around same time. their number was
l51-61-10637. O’s document 151-1961-10641.

[TheBigIf]

This is incredible. Great work.

I am planning on mailing copies of this to every single member of Congress asking where is Obama’s birth certificate?

It is an established fact that we haven’t seen it.