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Tests on skull fragment cast doubt on Adolf Hitler suicide story
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/sep/27/adolf-hitler-suicide-skull-fragment ^ | Sunday 27 September 2009 | Uki Goņi

Posted on 10/01/2009 7:17:05 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

Bone with bullet hole found by Russians in 1946 came from an unknown woman, not the German leader Tests on skull fragment cast doubt on Adolf Hitler suicide In countless biographies of Adolf Hitler the story of his final hours is recounted in the traditional version: committing suicide with Eva Braun, he took a cyanide pill and then shot himself on 30 April 1945, as the Russians bombarded Berlin.

Some historians expressed doubt that the Führer had shot himself, speculating that accounts of Hitler's death had been embellished to present his suicide in a suitably heroic light. But a fragment of skull, complete with bullet hole, which was taken from the bunker by the Russians and displayed in Moscow in 2000, appeared to settle the argument.

Until now. In the wake of new revelations, the histories of Hitler's death may need to be rewritten – and left open-ended. American researchers claim to have demonstrated that the skull fragment, secretly preserved for decades by Soviet intelligence, belonged to a woman under 40, whose identity is unknown. DNA analyses performed on the bone, now held by the Russian State Archive in Moscow, have been processed at the genetics lab of the University of Connecticut. The results, broadcast in the US by a History Channel documentary, Hitler's Escape, astonished scientists.

According to Connecticut archaeologist and bone specialist Nick Bellantoni, it was clear from the outset that something was amiss. "The bone seemed very thin; male bone tends to be more robust," he said. "And the sutures where the skull plates come together seemed to correspond to someone under 40." In April 1945 Hitler turned 56.

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TOPICS: Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; US: Connecticut
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1 posted on 10/01/2009 7:17:05 AM PDT by COUNTrecount
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To: COUNTrecount

So a woman was pretending to he Hitler and started all that mess?!??!?! /snide


2 posted on 10/01/2009 7:19:35 AM PDT by pikachu (Be alert! We need more lerts!)
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To: pikachu

He probably died in Argentina with the rest of the nazis.


3 posted on 10/01/2009 7:23:23 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: COUNTrecount

There is some evidence that he is alive and well and living in central Washington D.C.


4 posted on 10/01/2009 7:23:48 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannolis. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: pikachu

I know. Hitler was spirited out on a sub to secret Nazi Antarctic base. ;^)


5 posted on 10/01/2009 7:25:15 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: COUNTrecount

Given the steady mythologizing of Hitler and the Nazis I have no doubt that this whole story of the skull will be incorporated into a tale of how Adolph faked his suicide, slipped out of Berlin through the Russian lines, escaped from Germany in the chaos that followed the war, and is now living in time capsule under the arctic ice waiting for the right time to emerge and conquer the world.

That the skull is not Hitler’s proves only that the Russians picked up the wrong skull in 1945. Since loose human skulls were not in short supply at the time this is not surprising.


6 posted on 10/01/2009 7:25:18 AM PDT by scory
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To: DonaldC
"He probably died in Argentina with the rest of the nazis."

Even in light of this new evidence, the circumstances surrounding Hitler's death are better documented and more thoroughly investigated than Obama's birth.

7 posted on 10/01/2009 7:25:35 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: COUNTrecount
A skull fragment they found long afterwards and presumed, with zero evidence, to be Hitler's, isn't.

Doesn't prove or disprove anything.

8 posted on 10/01/2009 7:26:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Ask not what the Kennedys can do for you, but what you can do for the Kennedys.)
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To: COUNTrecount

So maybe the rumor he was hiding in the basement of our local American Legion aren’t so crazy after all?


9 posted on 10/01/2009 7:27:30 AM PDT by Scotswife
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To: COUNTrecount
Some historians expressed doubt that the Führer had shot himself, speculating that accounts of Hitler's death had been embellished to present his suicide in a suitably heroic light.

Traudl Junge was a young secretary at the time, she had no incentive to embellish what she knew.

10 posted on 10/01/2009 7:27:46 AM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
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To: COUNTrecount

Sheesh. Everyone knows that Hitler escaped to Argentina and died there in 1972.


11 posted on 10/01/2009 7:27:56 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: scory
That the skull is not Hitler’s proves only that the Russians picked up the wrong skull in 1945. Since loose human skulls were not in short supply at the time this is not surprising.

I think it more likely that Stalin simply claimed the skull as a personal trophy, and the KGB tossed another skull in the box and tucked it away in the archives.

By now, Hitler's real skull is probably a paper clip dispenser on Putin's desk.

12 posted on 10/01/2009 7:29:35 AM PDT by Charles Martel (NRA Lifetime Member since 1984; TSRA rookie)
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To: COUNTrecount

Eva Braun was 33 at the time of her death.


13 posted on 10/01/2009 7:33:28 AM PDT by CholeraJoe (Member of AARP - Armed And Really Pi$$ED!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

He was living as a Jew (reform) in Miami Beach.


14 posted on 10/01/2009 7:34:41 AM PDT by onedoug
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“Eva Braun was 33 at the time of her death.”

He couldn’t take the chance of taking her with him, I guess.


15 posted on 10/01/2009 7:36:08 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: COUNTrecount
Maybe that's Eva's.

I have a relative who INSISTS that Hitler not only escaped, but that he is alve and advising the Bildebergs on their plans to control the world. That he would be 120 years old now makes no difference.

16 posted on 10/01/2009 7:36:31 AM PDT by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: theDentist

“That he would be 120 years old now makes no difference.”

Good point, I hadn’t even thought of that, LOL!


17 posted on 10/01/2009 7:38:13 AM PDT by acoulterfan
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To: COUNTrecount


It's true. They saved Hitler's brain.
18 posted on 10/01/2009 7:38:29 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: onedoug

By the looks of things I would say he moved to Chicago and mentored a young mulatto male on the finer details of fascism....


19 posted on 10/01/2009 7:38:48 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Charles Martel
By now, Hitler's real skull is probably a paper clip dispenser on Putin's desk.

LOLOL

20 posted on 10/01/2009 7:40:19 AM PDT by vox_freedom (America is being tested as never before in its history. May God help us.)
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