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Immigration bill backers try again despite jobless rate
Washington Times ^ | 12/15/2009 | Stephan Dinan

Posted on 12/15/2009 6:17:55 AM PST by markomalley

Democrats on Tuesday begin their new push for an immigration bill, hamstrung by the image of legalizing millions of illegal immigrant workers at a time when the unemployment rate stands at 10 percent -- more than twice what it was the last time Congress tried to act.

"It certainly will confuse the debate a lot more, but at the end of the day what we have to understand is fixing this system will be good for American workers," said Eliseo Medina, executive vice president of the Service Employees International Union, which is one of the major advocates for legalizing illegal immigrant workers.

Rep. Luis V. Gutierrez, the Illinois Democrat who has taken over leadership on the issue after the death of Sen. Edward M. Kennedy, Massachusetts Democrat, plans to introduce an immigration legalization bill Tuesday, and backers are planning a strategy to avoid repeats of the failed attempts of 2006 and 2007.

In a letter to members of Congress last week seeking support for the bill, Mr. Gutierrez and Rep. Nydia M. Velazquez, New York Democrat and chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, said their legislation will end the off-the-books economy of illegal immigrant workers and protect American workers by raising labor standards.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; congress; illegalimmigration; immigrantlist; immigration; nudge
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So they have us busy on obamacare and cap-n-tax, they think they can sneak this one past us.

Time to get on the phones and let our RINOs know their jobs are on the line....again...

1 posted on 12/15/2009 6:17:56 AM PST by markomalley
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2 posted on 12/15/2009 6:20:21 AM PST by bcsco (Hey, GOP: The American Indians found out what happens when you don't control immigration...)
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3 posted on 12/15/2009 6:21:26 AM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
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To: bcsco

CIVIL W A R 2


4 posted on 12/15/2009 6:23:02 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
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To: markomalley

I hope they march. A big immigration reform push right now should seal it. Dead Demos Nov 2010. Viva la Revolucion!


5 posted on 12/15/2009 6:25:01 AM PST by LALALAW (one of the asses whose sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: markomalley

Lord have mercy...this is going to be a hoot.


6 posted on 12/15/2009 6:30:31 AM PST by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: markomalley
From 1929 to 1937, Hoover authorized the Mexican Repatriation program. To combat rampant unemployment, the burden on municipal aid services, and remove usurpers of American jobs, approximately 500,000 Mexicans and Mexican Americans were returned to Mexico.
7 posted on 12/15/2009 6:43:23 AM PST by chuck_the_tv_out ( <<< click my name: now featuring Freeper classifieds)
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To: markomalley

The fuse has been lit.

LLS


8 posted on 12/15/2009 6:48:41 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (hussama will never be my president... NEVER!)
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To: bcsco

im sure Geraldo is having massive tingles up his legs after hearing this news


9 posted on 12/15/2009 6:57:11 AM PST by eak3
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To: markomalley

I predict they’ll do it with the spin that it’ll decrease unemployment.


10 posted on 12/15/2009 7:00:16 AM PST by MNDude (The Republican Congress Economy--1995-2007)
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To: markomalley

Unemployment figures would drop to 6% if we got rid of the illegals. They aren’t even factored into the equation to begin with.


11 posted on 12/15/2009 7:04:50 AM PST by jetson
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lol

Man the democrats REALLY want to lose bad in 2010 !

This just keeps getting better and better.

All they need to do now is hike taxes on everyone and they will have done everything humanly possible to lose in 2010.

12 posted on 12/15/2009 7:15:30 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied, the economy died)
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To: markomalley

These people truly are certifiable.


13 posted on 12/15/2009 7:16:11 AM PST by headstamp 2
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I agree with Cong. Lamar Smith, all immigration should be halted for the time being.
14 posted on 12/15/2009 7:17:47 AM PST by 1066AD
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They might just push this through precisely because they know their jobs could be on the line.

Every precious vote they can get will count toward keeping them in power which seems to matter to them far more than the dire unemployment figures and the suffering of millions of their constituents which they caused.


15 posted on 12/15/2009 7:35:12 AM PST by Califreak (Obama's Purple Reign must be stopped!)
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To: markomalley

Obama needs to get behind this strong.
And we need to help him.
By kicking him and the Rats in the ass on this. Again.


16 posted on 12/15/2009 7:38:43 AM PST by romanesq
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Damn, we can only hope.

There’s so many things broken on so many different levels in America.


17 posted on 12/15/2009 7:47:57 AM PST by servantboy777
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>>By kicking him and the Rats in the ass on this. Again.<<

Hey, don't forget about Kay Bailey Hutchison, John McCain, Lindsey Graham and the rest of the Republican traitors.

Don't wanna leave’m outta the party.

18 posted on 12/15/2009 7:50:24 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: markomalley; Liz; gubamyster; rabscuttle385; SwinneySwitch; wolfcreek; All

Mike Cutler sent out an email about this article. He explains why AMNESTY will not work and will create more problems than we can deal with!

“There is no way that our beleaguered adjudicators at USCIS (United States Citizenship and Immigration Services) the agency that would administer this insane program would be able to reliably know anything about the millions of illegal aliens who would undoubtedly seek to acquire lawful immigrant status and ultimately, United States citizenship through Comprehensive Immigration Reform.

They have no official documentation to substantiate their true names or even their true nationalities. Therefore there would be no reliable way of determining if these illegal aliens whose simple presence in our country represents a violation of our nation’s laws and borders, are fugitives from justice in other countries. There would be no reliable way of knowing if these illegal aliens are affiliated with criminal or terrorist organizations.

There would also not be any reliable way of knowing when these illegal aliens entered the United States. They will have, no doubt, used one or more, stolen or fictitious identities, making it all but impossible to know when, where or how they actually entered the United States without conduction a field investigation. Yet with the huge numbers of illegal aliens involved and the small number of agents available to deal with the onslaught of applications, all that would be done is a “background check.”

As I have noted on so many previous occasions a background check does not entail having investigators knocking on doors and interviewing those who might know these illegal aliens. A background check would simply require that the applicant’s fingerprints and name he (she) provides on the application be run through a computerized database. If the fingerprints come up “clean,” that is to say does not match any known criminal and if the name provided by the applicant is fictitious, then the system would automatically deem the alien to be okay for a temporary identity document that would immediately enable that alien to apply for and receive a Social Security card, a driver’s license and other such documents.”

“Now here is the really insane part of the proposal for Comprehensive Immigration Reform. This is not speculation but actually occurred in the wake of the Amnesty of 1986.

When aliens who had previously been illegally present in the United States were granted lawful status, they were no longer exploitable. In many cases these previously illegal aliens approached their employers and told them that they would certainly want to continue working for them but that they now wanted to be paid prevailing wages. They wanted the appropriate deductions taken from their salaries. They wanted to be compensated appropriately for working overtime and on weekends.

In short, these previously vulnerable aliens were no longer vulnerable and demanded fair and equitable treatment by their employers. In many of these instances, guess what happened? The employers fired these now legal aliens and hired the next wave of illegal aliens!

Now stop and ask yourself the very obvious question: “What would happen if 10 million or 20 million legalized aliens demanded proper wages and working conditions?”

If you guessed they would be fired, you would be right! The unscrupulous employers would not go without cheap exploitable labor, however, they would simply seek to hire the next wave of illegal aliens who would easily run our porous borders hoping that they would ultimately take advantage of the next amnesty!

How much would unemployment and welfare cost our government to care for the newly unemployed legalized aliens?

How much would this further drive wages down as too many workers would be forced to chase far too few jobs?

Incidentally, how many of the displaced workers would be members of the various minority groups in the United States?

Comprehensive Immigration Reform is nothing more than an attempt to grab political power by politicians who do not give a damn about anything or anyone but themselves and their quest for power!”

mcutler007@aol.com


19 posted on 12/15/2009 8:14:37 AM PST by AuntB (If Al Qaeda grew drugs & burned our forests instead of armed Mexican Cartels would anyone notice?)
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To: markomalley

They want those because they need the Democratic votes. Illegals, if made citizens, would vote ‘Rat.


20 posted on 12/15/2009 8:20:02 AM PST by Pinkbell
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