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How George W. Bush Redefined American Freedom
Campaign for Liberty ^ | 2009-12-24 | James Bovard

Posted on 12/24/2009 5:02:20 PM PST by rabscuttle385

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To: doc; rabscuttle385
RE :”For exposing the truth Valerie Plain? and her husband were demonized

This one I dont buy. I think Bush did mismanage things by trying to blame his invasion on the CIA, creating a huge fight between the WH and CIA. It was his job to manage this and instead we got the Scooter Libby train wreck.

But Wilson/Plane were acting as political activists with Plane claiming she was covert for political cover and in the end the WH did NOT leak her name. That was a big lie. I do blame Bush but dont consider Plane/Wilson heros'

21 posted on 12/24/2009 5:30:38 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: doc

You should give Bush credit for fully identifying Islam as being a ROP. How I hope that his friends will erect a mosque next door to his home.


22 posted on 12/24/2009 5:34:49 PM PST by 353FMG (Save the Planet -- Eliminate Socialism)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; doc; darkwing104; Old Sarge; hellinahandcart; Calpernia; xzins; SandRat; ...
These BDS chumps don't deserve any more respect than the fool currently residing in the oval office.

They are one note Johnnies; immigration, immingration, immigration.

Bush did more for this nation than any one of these jerks...of course when you worship tin-hats like Ron Paul, what can you expect from them?

I'll take Bush over anyone who ran against in the primaries. He wasn't perfect, but he deserves our respect for leading this nation through the first attack on our soil by a foreign power since the Brits attacked Washington..

I hope they all choke on their Christmas hate message.
23 posted on 12/24/2009 5:36:28 PM PST by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: sickoflibs

‘cuz you’re a hero. Now, it’s easy to get away with bashing Bush on FR, why don’t you bash Cheney instead ? Since the incoherent Bovard article is probably more apropos Cheney than Bush.


24 posted on 12/24/2009 5:37:30 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: Skywalk
Expecting sanity form a bunch of utopian tin-hatters is a bit much. Libertarians give the delusionals a bad name.

Vote for lunacy-vote Ron Paul.
25 posted on 12/24/2009 5:39:59 PM PST by Sudetenland (Slow to anger but terrible in vengence...such is the character of the American people.)
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To: Carley

Put Cheney in there , too?


26 posted on 12/24/2009 5:40:11 PM PST by gusopol3
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
RE :”You believe Valerie Plame and Joe Wison? Looks like you’ve outed yourself...

That was the one I couldn't buy either, two MSNBC heroes like the Jersey girls and Cindy. It was the State Department Armatage that outed her not the WH

27 posted on 12/24/2009 5:40:51 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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To: rabscuttle385

This is thin gruel for attacking GWB. Who is this clown?


28 posted on 12/24/2009 5:43:04 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rabscuttle385
I recall that Bovard used to have a column in The American Spectator in its glory days along with Mark Steyn, Tom Bethell, Richard Grenier, etc. It's sad that he's gone off the deep end into Lew Rockwell loony-libertarian-land.

From a legitimately arguable statement like

the "Department of Defense has become the most powerful force for freedom the world has ever seen."

Bovard extrapolates a bizarre conclusion that belief in the previous statement must also mean that

...if the government seized all of every citizen's paycheck...and used all the revenue to bankroll foreign military conquests, Americans would have absolute freedom.

And as the phrase goes, that's the kind of logic that isn't. Paleo-libertarians are despicable human beings; I'll take an avowed socialist over one anyday, because, news flash, paleo-libertarians aren't really interested in freedom. They hate their country too much for that.

29 posted on 12/24/2009 5:43:56 PM PST by denydenydeny (The Left sees taxpayers the way Dr Frankenstein saw the local cemetery; raw material for experiments)
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To: Sudetenland; 2ndDivisionVet
Don't expect doc to reply. He's a drive by poster. Simular to a troll but not quite the same.


30 posted on 12/24/2009 5:44:49 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Skywalk
I’m sure Bovard is chronicling the Obama presidency as we speak.

And why shouldn't he?


31 posted on 12/24/2009 5:45:06 PM PST by BluesDuke (Let sleeping dogs lie, and you leave them open to perjury charges.)
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To: rabscuttle385

GWB was, and is, a very principled man who placed country over self, over legacy. I miss him, and I thank God he was ours following 911.


32 posted on 12/24/2009 5:46:55 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (Gee, it looks like climate change was man-made after all!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Exactly wrong.

Precisely why faux conservatives are as they are.

There is not liberty for us in this world absent defense.

The pretentious braying sentimental nonsense of a world that simply ignores America and lets us live in peace is the anti-thesis of what we ought to be.

Thank you President Bush for your excellent American service.

I still love how Jesus told the pacifists and the anti Imperialists that the Roman Soldier was the one with the greatest faith in all of Israel.

priceless.


33 posted on 12/24/2009 5:47:03 PM PST by lonestar67 ("I love my country a lot more than I love politics," President George W. Bush)
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To: gusopol3; rabscuttle385
Cheney is more popular here than Bush solely because he goes after Obama. But Cheney was not president and could not make the final decisions that was GWB.

Cheney, my looking back, is no hero to me anymore either.

Do Deficits Matter?:It depends on where you sit...(Cheney from 2005, How about now? )

34 posted on 12/24/2009 5:47:31 PM PST by sickoflibs ( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid")
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"He also started a war based on false foreign interlligence on WMD, as stated by Colin Powell. His administration went on to blame Sadaam for obtaining uranium from Africa which turned out to be a lie."

LOL!!! He started a war with Iraq over 12 years on non-compliance of a surrender agreement. Sorry if you believed the MSM's single issue focus. And the uranium he never said they acquired it, just said that Iraqis had been in Niger inquiring about obtaining uranium, which is true.

35 posted on 12/24/2009 5:53:30 PM PST by avacado
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To: HChampagne

“then they foisted this tragedy upon us in 2008”

It’s a travesty.


36 posted on 12/24/2009 5:53:52 PM PST by Ben Chad
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To: onyx

Ah, Lew Rockwell. What a pathetic little prick.


38 posted on 12/24/2009 5:56:10 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: rabscuttle385

Just bow down before Ron Paul and everything will be just perfect!

What a fool the country turned out to be by rejecting such a magnificent all seeing, all knowing cult leader.

What escapes me, as much as you all hate the GOP, why do you remain in it?


39 posted on 12/24/2009 5:58:56 PM PST by DakotaRed (What happened to the country I fought for?)
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To: denydenydeny; pissant; All
Here's everything you'll ever want to know about JIM BOVARD complete with recommendations by his 'followers' and fans.

His articles regularly appear on the sourced article's website: Ron Paul's son is Chairman of the Board. LOL.

40 posted on 12/24/2009 6:03:08 PM PST by onyx
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