Posted on 01/14/2010 7:57:17 PM PST by SeekAndFind
Via Breitbart, the Robertson story’s almost out of gas but a rejoinder this clever deserves wider airing. Most were content to hammer Reverend Pat yesterday for blaming the victims, but this guy’s after bigger game. If you’re trying to divine divine will by tracing a cause-and-effect line between certain historical data points, how do you know which data points to select? Does Haiti get no credit in the heavenly ledger for overthrowing a slaveholder regime and thereby bringing about the conditions for the U.S. to purchase the Louisiana territory? If not, if that’s spoiled by their, ahem, “pact with the devil,” does that mean the U.S. has some sort of reflected retribution coming because it profited from the deal (or was Katrina that retribution)? Or was the “pact with the devil” actually a good thing because God wanted the U.S. to have Louisiana — in which case, why are the Haitians supposedly being punished? If we do have retribution coming, how do we know when it’s finished — i.e., that Katrina wasn’t just part one of many? How come the Haitians needed help from the devil to get rid of slavery, anyway? Wasn’t God on their side? What about other non-Christian countries, as Peter Wehner asks? Stop me before I atheist-query again.
Note that Maddow doesn’t prompt this either; the ambassador offers it on his own, indicating the depth of his indignation. Below that you’ll find Gibbs, who was prompted, giving his own take. For once, he’s unobjectionable.
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SEE HERE FOR THE ORIGINAL STATEMENT MADE BY PAT ROBERTSON :
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the media rules the world.
form a Haitian Corps - Send them to Iraq and Afghanistan
Robertson has no clue. Haiti is a Christian country. Why do they even invite Robertson to comment, except to make a fool out of himself.
06 Mar 2004
Voodoo, an exotic synthesis of African, Caribbean and Roman Catholic beliefs, with freemasonry mixed in too, pervades every facet of life in Haiti, so its role in the downfall of Mr Aristide is, for most, beyond dispute.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/centralamericaandthecaribbean/haiti/1456192/Voodoo-spirits-get-credit-for-Aristides-flight.html
A liberal UK reporter sites historical data on Haiti's “80% catholic, 100% voodoo” religious heritage. Also, evangelical missionaries to that country will tell you that it is most decidedly NOT CHRISTIAN.
For those who don’t know what Haitian Vodou (correct spelling ) is, here is a brief explanation :
The principal belief in Haitian Vodou is that there are various deities, or Lwa (commonly spelled Loa), who are subordinate to a greater god, known as Bondyè, who does not interfere with human affairs. Therefore it is to the lwa that Vodou worship is directed. Other characteristics of Vodou include veneration of the dead and protection against evil witchcraft.
It is based upon a merging of the beliefs and practices of West African peoples, (mainly the Fon and Ewe also known as West African Vodun), with Roman Catholic Christianity, which was brought about as African slaves were brought to Haiti in the 16th century and forced to convert to the religion of their owners, whilst they largely still followed their traditional African beliefs.
This suggests to me at least that conversion to Christianity was mostly HALF-HEARTED for a lot of the people.
For those who don’t know what Haitian Vodou (correct spelling ) is, here is a brief explanation :
The principal belief in Haitian Vodou is that there are various deities, or Lwa (commonly spelled Loa), who are subordinate to a greater god, known as Bondyè, who does not interfere with human affairs. Therefore it is to the lwa that Vodou worship is directed. Other characteristics of Vodou include veneration of the dead and protection against evil witchcraft.
It is based upon a merging of the beliefs and practices of West African peoples, (mainly the Fon and Ewe also known as West African Vodun), with Roman Catholic Christianity, which was brought about as African slaves were brought to Haiti in the 16th century and forced to convert to the religion of their owners, whilst they largely still followed their traditional African beliefs.
This suggests to me at least that conversion to Christianity was mostly HALF-HEARTED for a lot of the people.
It’ll always be voodoo to me.
Haiti is the OPPOSITE of a Christian country. It is ruled by voodoo priests and disgusting animal scarifices.
Here's a hint: when everyone swears by everything that they'll never sin again, you're in the first lap of the Indy 500.
.. uh, well.. not quite yet. There are still slaves to be freed.
When the horror has been dealt with and recovery is in progress perhaps Haitians might google, Haiti slavery children, and start dealing with another horror.
While they're at it they may as well clean up ongoing horrors of a corrupt society and criminal rulers also.
Let’s let them all die then so we can show Jesus how faithful we are.
Right, because all evangelicals know that Catholics are not christians.
And how come, with every one of the ten million protestant denominations constantly sending missionaries there, it's not a christian country?
As I said on another thread if they didn’t make a pact with the Devil they certainly have the worst karma of any country in the Carribean. They can’t catch a break for anything.
And why the disparity between Haiti and the Dominican Republic?
Its all bad voodoo.....
While the loss of sugar income from Haiti was a problem, the sale of Lousiana to the U.S. was a done deal due more to Napoleon’s need for cash for his European wars and his realization that he couldn’t defend Lousiana against Spain, the U.K. and the U.S. If Napoleon had been a little less agressive against the other European powers, he could have easily re-taken Haiti, and Iowans might be speaking French.
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