Posted on 02/19/2010 9:27:00 AM PST by butterdezillion
On Jan 27, 2010 Hawaii State Senator Will Espero has introduced a bill to label some people "vexatious requestors" who can be denied responses from the DOH. This action was taken 2 weeks after I posted "Red Flags in Hawaii", (see at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/ ), a blog post documenting how Hawaii government officials have broken laws and rules in order to cover for Obama.
The Honolulu Advertiser has an article about it. Apparently I can't post anything from the HA because they won't allow it, but it's in an article online today. In it, Okubo claims that she gets about 50 requests/month for Obama's BC.
First off, I call BS on that number. I requested all the UIPA requests involving Obama for a 2-week period and there were 7 requests - only 2 of which were for a BC, and both for a non-certified abbreviated birth certificate, which the Administrative Rules expressly authorize to be released to anybody who asks for it.
Second, I believe this firmly places us in phase 3 of the saying, "First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win."
Okay, the links don’t come through on the post.
Bill history: http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/session2010/lists/measure_indiv.aspx?billtype=SB&billnumber=2937
“Red Flags in Hawaii”: http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/
Link to Advertiser article: http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20100219/NEWS01/2190362/Hawaii+gets+persistent+requests+for+Obama+birth+certificate
MMM mmmm mmmmmmmm.
PING, THE CONTEST GOES UP ONE MORE NOTCH
State law allows birth certificates to be issued to family members, legal guard- ians, representatives of a person’s estate, or by court order or other legal purposes.
Okubo said those who have been requesting Obama’s birth certificate don’t meet the legal standards.
OMG.
One day, we will be vindicated. You and I both know he’s hiding something.
No matter what IT is, it will show him for the lying sack he is.
Maybe redundant but here’s the link to Zero’s very own webpage as part of the Hawaiian Dept of Health’s website:
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html
State allow also gives DOH rules the authority to authorize disclosures, and those rules allow ANYBODY WHO ASKS FOR IT to receive a non-certified abbreviated copy of a birth certificate. Okubo knows this; she’s been told about 5 times just from me. Every time she comes up with an argument about how HRS 338-18 prohibits disclosure, but it is 338-18a which specifically makes the DOH Administrative Rules authoritative - and they authorize this release to anybody who asks for it.
I think what’s really going on is they can’t issue an abbreviated copy (COLB) because one particular item is missing from the original birth certificate - an item which had to be added and whose addition to the original birth certificate has to be noted on the abbreviated certificate. That note would give away everything. As would the long-form certificate.
They have to fight to not show anything but a forged COLB online because everything they actually have at the DOH shows that the birth record is not validated - but had to be amended 40+ years after the birth to provide the information that any attending doctor would have given at birth or when examining the child after an unattended birth.
Jeesh. I’m typing too fast. State LAW (not allow)
I’m pretty sure I know what IT is. It makes clear that his whole story is a lie.
Does anybody here have the ability to find out what sanctions are given to specific doctors by the IL State Medical Board?
I didn’t notice that. I guess that raises the stakes for the DOH because it sure appears to be an endorsement of what’s on Obama’s website - which raises their involvement to the status of them “inviting the public to rely on” a document they know to be a forgery - which is perjury. If I’m remembering correctly, in Hawaii that’s a Class B felony, right there.
Hmmm...on second thought, this is a dangerous game they are playing.
I wonder if someone who is found to be a “Vexatious Requester” of “Obama’s BC” could have standing to view the BC.
The only REAL way to tell if it’s a frivolous request is to look at the BC.
Could be that the requester is a hero.=)
Not that that means they need to try and circumvent their own laws though. Just sayin...
Consider: Okubo is going to act along the lines of what Hawaiian state legal counsel tells her the laws and statues of Hawaii mean. Not what citizens of other states tell her what they think the laws and statues of Hawaii mean.
No.
Neither will a Hawaiian parking ticket, nor a receipt for pineapples.
I think there was a Facebook party on Tuesday to inundate the DOH with requests. That may have given her cover to say the average is 50.
But Espero introduced the bill long before that.
I like the way you think. Being labeled officially by the government does give a person standing, I would think...
We’ve asked to see what the Hawaii Attorney General’s office has said about all this. They say that they can’t comment because it would cause a “conflict of interest”.
Why do you think that is?
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