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Reform Repeal Is Just Child's Play
Townhall.com ^ | March 25, 2010 | INVESTORS BUSINESS DAILY Staff

Posted on 03/25/2010 5:55:58 PM PDT by Kaslin

Repeal: Some say trying to repeal ObamaCare is a futile dream once people get used to its benefits, such as covering kids with pre-existing conditions. Once before, government was slapped down. It can be done.

Entitlements can be addictive, and it's certainly the purpose of this administration to make as many Americans as possible as dependent on government as possible.

That's partly why a health care bill put student loans under the Department of Education. The government needed the revenues, but it also needed the power over yet another class of citizens.

Unlike Medicare and Social Security, this nationalization of one-sixth of the U.S. economy and placing of bureaucrats and IRS agents between you and your doctor was unpopular from the beginning.

As John R. Graham, director of Health Care Studies at the Pacific Research Institute, reminds us, the 1965 Medicare and Medicaid amendments to the Social Security Act of 1935 enjoyed greater than 70% majorities in each congressional chamber. Social Security also passed with majorities of both parties in both chambers.

Not so with this bill.

Once before there were "angry mobs" reacting to government expansion of and into health care. They once greeted former House Ways and Means Chairman Dan Rostenkowski over the Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act of 1988, which expanded Medicare benefits and funded it with a supplemental tax.

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1 posted on 03/25/2010 5:55:58 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

I don’t want it repealed, I want it struck down as unConstitutional, never to be heard from again.


2 posted on 03/25/2010 6:46:11 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: Kaslin; rabscuttle385; AuntB; stephenjohnbanker; mkjessup; Bokababe; genetic homophobe; ...

I have been thinking along similar lines. The spending is not for another four years. Let’s say for argument Obama wins in 2012 worst case. It’s is still up to that future congress to fund it. This two year group of congress democrats, many wont be here, cant fund it or any other program in the future now. Next is mandates. The future congress if not sooner can send Obama a bill removing mandates , assuming they even hold up in court. What if Obama vetos that? Then he acts out against voters and Republicans can run on that. Most likely the Senate filibusters the removal to hide it from public. Then add it to unemployment benefits.

The weak link in my plan ?? Elected republicans! Count on them to spend if they get power again.


3 posted on 03/25/2010 6:48:42 PM PDT by sickoflibs (( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid"))
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To: SZonian

While parts may be ultimately declared unconstitutional, the problem is that the SC is EXTREMELY unlikely to slap down all of it. We are still stuck with dozens of new agencies who have nothing better to do than to try to regulate every single area of our lives.


4 posted on 03/25/2010 6:53:43 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: Kaslin
However, if we don't try, then we will never have a chance to rid us of this oppressive fascist government led by obozo. We as liberty loving Americans need to start pushing back hard to rid this nation of this socialist agenda.
5 posted on 03/25/2010 7:10:10 PM PDT by grcuster
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To: sickoflibs

We still have to pay in premiums? What do you do about those? That’s the idea. Take our money.


6 posted on 03/25/2010 7:37:21 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: sickoflibs

Remember no matter what Obama or others say; he was really not elected. He was selected.


7 posted on 03/25/2010 7:37:53 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: freekitty
RE :”We still have to pay in premiums? What do you do about those? That’s the idea. Take our money.

Are you talking about the personal mandate to be insured ? I was proposing fighting that given it's unpopularity. But realistically the fines are a joke. Pay the small fine then sign up for health insurance after you get sick.

The taxes can be repealed if Republicans can make an economic case for them.

Have hope! Freedom is worth fighting for!

8 posted on 03/25/2010 7:53:00 PM PDT by sickoflibs (( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid"))
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To: Blood of Tyrants

If the mandate part is gutted, we now have bureaucracies all dressed up with nowhere to go.


9 posted on 03/26/2010 12:13:17 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America (per bible: am in the world but not of it))
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To: sickoflibs
Have hope! Freedom is worth fighting for!

You're so optimistic today! Must be Friday.

10 posted on 03/26/2010 6:12:00 AM PDT by genetic homophobe
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To: HiTech RedNeck

And wasting money. Which is why the next Congress should make sure that not one penny is allotted to Obamacare.


11 posted on 03/26/2010 7:07:28 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The US will not die with a whimper. It will die with thundering applause from the left.)
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To: genetic homophobe; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker
RE :You're so optimistic today! Must be Friday.

I never was much for “this is the end of the world” stuff. As long as it stays unpopular it can be undermined before it goes into effect. I still think Republicans gave democrats one hell of a beating, in spite of democrats gloating for four nights.
Jay Leno made a great joke but I cant repeat it.

I hear Obama wants to next move on Bank Reform and No Child to lure some Republicans (at least RINOs) to support him. The bank reform would include those new 'bailout' taxes we talked about late last year.

12 posted on 03/26/2010 9:14:07 AM PDT by sickoflibs (( "It's not the taxes, the redistribution is spending you demand stupid"))
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