Columbia University Obama Trial Live Thread 5-14 thru 5-20

Atlah Worldwide ^ | 5-14-10 | Atlah Ministries

[ETL]

After the fact (with the Soviets collapsed), everyone wondered “how could the CIA have missed the falling of the Soviet Empire”?

Something for you to consider regarding the "collapse" of the Evil Empire and Communism:

Did Communism Fake Its Own Death in 1991?
American Thinker ^ | January 16, 2010 | Jason McNew

In a bizarre 1984 book [New Lies for Old], ex-KGB Major Anatoliy Golitsyn predicted the liberalization of the Soviet Bloc and claimed that it would be a strategic deception. ..."

"Golitsyn's argument was that beginning in about 1960, the Soviet Union embarked on a strategy of massive long-range strategic deception which would span several decades and result in the destruction of Western capitalism and the erection of a communist world government."

"Golitsyn published his second book, The Perestroika Deception, after the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991. This book contained further analysis of the liberalization, in addition to previously classified memoranda submitted by Golitsyn to the CIA. The two books must be read together to get a complete picture of Golitsyn's thesis."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/01/did_communism_fake_its_own_dea.html
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"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'
http://www.hooverdigest.org/053/beichman.html

[SaraJohnson]

Thanks. I know all that. The CIA is knows and supports it as well.

[Sefton]

You’re implying that O attended Columbia College, some sort of extension campus for those that couldn’t make the cut for Columbia University, yet he had no problems going from their and getting accepted by Harvard Law School. His past doesn’t past the smell test. Even Michelle agree he still stinks!

[ETL]

ETL makes the incorrect assumption that the CIA is/was anti-Soviet/communist and pro America

I'm saying that no way in hell would Obama have helped to defeat the Soviet Union in their war with Afghanistan, as Manning claims. He was pro Soviet Union.

"James David Manning says Barack Hussein “The Long Legged Mack Daddy” Obama was a C.I.A operative who used Columbia University as a cover to go to Pakistan in 1981 when the CIA and the Mujahideen worked together against the Soviet Invasion. Obama supplied arms, logistics, and money"

http://atlah.org/atlahworldwide/?p=6142

[ETL]

You’re implying that O attended Columbia College, some sort of extension campus for those that couldn’t make the cut for Columbia University

As I mentioned earlier, Columbia College is an *undergrad* part of Columbia University. They are located on the CU campus.

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"Columbia College is the oldest undergraduate college at Columbia University, situated on the university's main campus of Morningside Heights in the Borough of Manhattan in the City of New York."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_College,_Columbia_University
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About the College: Columbia College
http://www.college.columbia.edu/about
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Barack Obama '83 Becomes First College Alumnus To Win Presidency

Wednesday, November 5, 2008

Barack Obama '83 became the first College alumnus to be elected President of the United States. On November 4, Obama defeated his Republican challenger, Sen. John McCain P'07, ending a marathon campaign that saw Obama rise from a first-term senator to the nation's first African-American president.

Obama, who was profiled in Columbia College Today in January 2005 when he burst upon the national political scene, transferred to Columbia from Occidental prior to his junior year.

In one of their few joint appearances, the candidates were interviewed in Roone Arledge Auditorium on September 11 at the Service Nation Presidential Candidates Forum.

This year's Presidential election had four candidates with strong College ties on the ballot. In addition to Obama being an alumnus, McCain's daughter, Meghan, is a 2007 College alumna; Wayne Allyn Root '83 was the Libertarian Party Vice-Presidential nominee running with Bob Barr; and Matt Gonzalez '87 ran as an independent candidate on the same ticketas Ralph Nader.

http://www.college.columbia.edu/news/barack-obama-83-becomes-first-college-alumnus-to-win-presidency

[phockthis]

sfl

[ETL]

Thanks. I know all that. The CIA is knows and supports it as well.

Here's something that might scare the crap out of you:

A little background on Leon Panetta, Obama's CIA Chief...

"In April 1985 [Leon] Panetta joined with 13 of his leftist congressional colleagues — including Ron Dellums, Don Edwards, George Miller, Christopher Dodd, and Les Aspin — in sponsoring a 20th anniversary fund-raising gala for the pro-Marxist Institute for Policy Studies (IPS), which had been described by Brian Crozier, director of the London Institute for the Study of Conflict, as the "perfect intellectual front for Soviet activities which would be resisted if they were to originate openly from the KGB." The IPS was originally funded with millions of dollars from the Faberge perfume magnate and Communist Party member Samuel Rubin and his wife."

"Readers who recall the movement to impeach Bill Clinton remember that one of the charges raised by Clinton's critics was the conflict of interest created when individuals connected with the Chinese Overseas Shipping Company (COSCO) — such as John Huang, Charles Trie, and James and Mochtar Riady — helped funnel contributions to the Clinton reelection campaign. Afterwards, the Clinton administration lobbied for granting COSCO a 10-year lease on the former Long Beach Naval Shipyard in California.

During a March 1997 edition of CNBC's Equal Time program, California Republican State Senator Dick Mountjoy noted that COSCO-linked arms dealer Wang Jun had been granted personal access to President Clinton, and that Wang's business associates had smuggled illegal assault weapons into California for delivery to street gangs by making use of a ship owned and operated by COSCO.

Mountjoy then stated:

The next thing you know, (then-Chief of Staff) Leon Panetta is down here negotiating that port for the Chinese.

There is much more to the COSCO-Long Beach connection than we have room for here, but a good summary of the threat the arrangement made to U.S. security may be found in an item inserted into the Congressional Record by Rep. Gerald B.H. Solomon on May 20, 1997.

Even the most unbiased of observers may legitimately ask: Why on Earth is an individual who helped negotiate the turnover of the Long Beach Naval Shipyard to the communist Chinese, thereby creating the threat to U.S. national security described in the Washington Times article by Rowan Scarborough and inserted into the Congressional Record by Rep. Solomon, being considered for a top position at one of our nation's most critical intelligence agencies?"

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/election/655
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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: Institute For Policy Studies (IPS)

IPS’s [Institute For Policy Studies] Washington, DC headquarters quickly became a resource center for national reporters and a place for KGB agents from the nearby Soviet embassy to convene and strategize., Cora Weiss headed one of the IPS's most successful forays -- into Riverside Church in Manhattan. She was invited there in 1978 by the Reverend William Sloane Coffin to run the church's Disarmament Program, which sought to consolidate Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe -- in the name of "peace." In 1982 Weiss helped organize the largest pro-disarmament demonstration ever held. Staged in New York City, the rally was attended by a coalition of communist organizations. During her decade-long tenure at Riverside, which became home to the National Council of Churches.

Weiss regularly received Russian KGB agents, Sandinista friends, and Cuban intelligence agents. Weiss became infamous for her role in the psychological warfare conducted against U.S. prisoners of war held in the infamous "Hanoi Hilton" during the Vietnam War.

The Liberation News Service, which is a news source for hundreds of "alternative" publications nationwide (with antiwar, Marxist-oriented perspectives), was founded in 1967 with IPS assistance."

[lots more at link...]

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6991
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From the website of the Marxist think tank, Institute For Policy Studies:

Obama’s Agenda for Change and the 2009 Summit of the Americas

excerpt:

'Yes We Can' — Change for the Americas Coming from Below

Hemispheric resistance to the first attempt by the U.S. to force the Free Trade Area of the Americas (FTAA) on every nation on this continent led to its eventual defeat at the IV Summit of the Americas, held in Argentina in 2005. The organizers of the April 2009 V Summit of the Americas had hoped to focus on a social agenda of providing a decent living for all those who call the “Americas” their home. The emergence of the PPA, or Bush’s Plan B for the FTAA, represents a threat to the urgent need of having all nations in the hemisphere focus on tackling the disparities that make the region the most unequeal in the world.

According to Obama, “what's good for the people of the Americas is good for the United States.” Among the specific proposals Obama has made (political freedom and democracy; freedom from fear and security; freedom from want and opportunity) in the “New Partnership for the Americas” document, he says that “it’s time for a new alliance of the Americas” that leaves behind “eight years of failed policies” and “top down reforms”, and puts forward instead an “agenda that advances democracy, security, and opportunity from the bottom up”. For Obama to make good on his vision for a new "partnership" in the Americas, the divisive Bush PPA initiative must be laid to rest well before the April V Summit of the Americas gets underway.

The 2009 IV Peoples’ Summit in Trinidad and Tobago

On April 17-19, 2009, the IV Peoples Summit will be taking place in Port of Spain, Trinidad (while heads of state are simultaneously meeting at the V Summit of the Americas).The message of a "change agenda" for the hemisphere will be brought to the island nation by social movements coming from all points in between Alaska and Tierra del Fuego. A key focus for discussions during the People’s Summit will be the economic meltdown hitting the capitalist system, and the opening that this provides for the implementation of a peoples’ agenda promoting sustainable development, social justice, equity, and peaceful coexistence.[ie, communism/socialism -etl]

In conjunction with the Hemispheric Social Alliance, social movements present in Trinidad and Tobago will be providing a "change agenda" that, in large measure, will likely be echoed by representatives from many of the newly elected governments in Latin America and the Caribbean. The V Summit of the Americas will be an ideal setting for Obama to signal a new respectful and consultative role for the US in the Americas as well. Will Obama avail himself of the opportunity to take this courageous step forward? Ojalá!

Source: Institute For Policy Studies (IPS):
http://www.ips-dc.org/articles/933

[browardchad]

I wouldn't be too concerned that Manning's so-called trial will have much effect.

Salon appears to be the only news source covering this live, and it's funny as heck:

Live from the Obama trial: Alex Pareene in Harlem

 

[browardchad]

Better links to the Salon blog post(s):

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/05/14/obama_trial_fight/index.html

[danamco]

I don't like tap-dancing such as AG Eric Holder!!!

I would have respected you, if you would admit your wrongly linked Pastor Manning to the Riverside Church, instead of continue tap-dancing here???

[SaraJohnson]

Thanks...it does scare the crap out of me. I want Obama out!

[SaraJohnson]

“I’m saying that no way in hell would Obama have helped to defeat the Soviet Union in their war with Afghanistan, as Manning claims. He was pro Soviet Union.”

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ETL, LISTEN for a minute:

You are assuming that Obama being connected to the CIA means “Obama helped to defeat the Soviet Union in their war with Afghanistan.” I am telling you the CIA is many things and centrally it is for advancing global communism - the same as the Soviet Union.

Obama’s side on the Afhgan war may or may not been in an effort to defeat the Soviet Union. Those assumption with the CIA are stupid. Manning may be stupid and probaly is not understanding the nature of the CIA. More than likely Obama was an CIA agent for the Soviet Union in the Afghan war.

[danamco]

I'm saying that no way in hell would Obama have helped to defeat the Soviet Union in their war with Afghanistan, as Manning claims. He was pro Soviet Union.

Could that be a "front" face as covers for being involved with CIA. Is that unusual in those circles, double faces???

[parsifal]

Is there any actual news from The Trial of the Century? Some of us are trying to follow this historic event. MSM seems to be ignoring it.

parsy, the riveted

[danamco]

I recommend that you instead ask that question by the owner, Jim Robinson!!!

[parsifal]

The thread title says this is the live thread of the trial, not “Watch Danamco Fuss and Snarl With People”, so I will ask again, of whoever, is there any news from the durn trial? None of the news channels have anything, and I have been flipping channels.

parsy, the interested

[SaraJohnson]

Double agents are common, yes. But with our CIA, no “double” would be necessary if a CIA insider commie was running Obama’s operation. People have no idea how “independent” the CIA is from governing authorities.

That is why Bush tried to reform the CIA to no avail - because they are their own ideological “bosses” and often it has nothing to do with the interest of freedom and US sovergnity. The CIA is like the State Department only with total police power.

[May31st]

Parsifal,

Someone earlier mentioned that Salon.com seems to be the only one giving some semblance of “play by play” coverage.

http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/05/14/obama_trial_fight/index.html

Pretty left-leaning slant.

[parsifal]

Thanks! Still nothing on news. I though MSNBC would cover it for sure. Huckabee on FOX. Money on CNBC. Oil spill on CNN.

parsy

[ETL]

Is there any actual news from The Trial of the Century?

What Manning is doing is the equivalent of making the legitimate allegation that Obama has strong communist leanings followed by the absurd allegation that he is from the planet 'Zepton' in the galaxy of 'Andros'. The later allegation obviously undermines the credibility of the first, at least in the minds of most people. Whether Manning is doing this intentionally or has been duped by leftist infiltrators of his church I cannot say. But the end results are pretty much the same.

Here's a photo of the sign he currently has hanging outside his church: